there is no problem. germany is gone.

The country that calls itself Germany is Germany.

Germans need to fix it.

people who live in germany and that love germany more than you love your mongrel nation have a higher authority on the matter to me, tbh

That's so simple, but people get stuck in pseudo-emotional and pseudo-heroic bullshit, it's ridiculous.

but again

going back

there was no "hanging the towel"

(the term being in fact throwing in the towel)

There was, and whoever would like to disagree with it would be a war criminal.

when?

People have rules.

Geneva Convention.

wtf are you serious?

the geneva convention was AFTER the war, ass

Sigh, such ignorance. It started way before the war.

the treaties that formed the convention as a document in international relations were signed in 49, to be added to the previous powerless ones

the two previous ones were as effective as the league of nations

and, in any case, they aren't respected by the big boys anyway

Of course not, yet another evidence that the world needs to be fixed.

didn't the US have war camps for german prisoners after the war, despite the "geneva conventions", where millions died?

did the USSR not send millions to the gulags?

I dunno, you tell me.

they did, bud

conventions meant nothing

and still don't for the ones in power

Let me ask a simple question.

"surrendering" in 1942 would have resulted in the same thing: occupation, war crimes

Did the pride of thousands of dead men protect these Germans in the American camps?

let me answer you with another simple question: do you prefer to die standing or live on your knees, ernesto?

Live standing.

A stupid binary question deserves nothing but that kind of answer.

as you failed to choose between one of the two, i'm going to take from your previous thoughts that you prefer the latter

Congratulations, now you're just talking to yourself because I didn't play your game.

again, going back to the original point

surrendering before may 45 would have made no difference, except for the fact that germany would have fewer heroes

but someone like you knows better

Right, have a good night.

the young men back then were fighting for their blood and soil, to the bitter end, no matter what. there was no room for some 21st century mentality of "guys, let's surrender and then attack them in a generation or two, right?"

you have a good night, too

Lol.