Message from @Vanguard

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2017-08-13 18:52:33 UTC  

all the symbolism is there

2017-08-13 18:58:49 UTC  

Yes larping with nazi symbols at events is stupid. It does nothing for strategic long term gains

2017-08-13 18:59:26 UTC  

You can appreciate the symbology, natsoc, the aesthetics but we have to find our own way in these times and make our own symbols.

2017-08-13 18:59:39 UTC  

next time mandatory American flag plus maga hat

2017-08-13 19:00:34 UTC  

The idea is to fight and win a culture war not go larping and undo any gains with symbols that are 7 decades old and have 7 decades of social conditioning behind them. Path of least resistance is needed to secure the future not fall short

2017-08-13 19:01:56 UTC  

@northern_confederate Not even kidding when I saw that would have been extremely effective if that's what everyone did. Imagine the (((media)) having the label every white American or Trump supporter a "Nazi" in more explicit terms than they ever have

2017-08-13 19:02:09 UTC  
2017-08-13 19:02:47 UTC  

I do not feel that using symbols from a movement at that time in that region will create the effects on target we need or want, and if anything are a negative combat multiplier. I have had this concern since the onset. While legit af and I appreviate them. Last time I heard the term nazi used was during bush. They will call you a nazi regardles but during the bush era this was just mocked by center and right as there was no ammo for this to be used against anyone minus liberal train wrecks

2017-08-13 19:02:57 UTC  

@SwiFT yes yes yes

2017-08-13 19:03:07 UTC  

walking around with them just really gives the enemy ammo to use against you

2017-08-13 19:03:10 UTC  

American flag everything.

2017-08-13 19:03:33 UTC  

I mean even get some old school federalist icon shit we used to have that looks authoritarian as fuck

2017-08-13 19:03:45 UTC  

@SwiFT or if it had just been Confederate flags

2017-08-13 19:03:57 UTC  

Confederate flags I think are largely still misnomers in american culture

2017-08-13 19:04:19 UTC  

and not as alien to this region as a nazi flag etc

2017-08-13 19:04:32 UTC  

its not as jarring to the center and right as other symbols are

2017-08-13 19:05:08 UTC  

read counter insurgency field manual and on 4th generation warfare, that is what this is

2017-08-13 19:05:12 UTC  

its thinking, its strategic,

2017-08-13 19:05:34 UTC  

its using political systems, state and sub state actors, propaganda, imagery, narrative control, moving the public opinion.

2017-08-13 19:06:03 UTC  

Mass media, social media, it is everything combined to create the effects on your operations at the local and strategic level

2017-08-13 19:07:54 UTC  

lol wut

2017-08-13 19:09:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274262571367006208/346369639288274963/unknown.png

2017-08-13 19:09:22 UTC  

M'Lady

2017-08-13 19:09:38 UTC  

Ha God Bless memes

2017-08-13 19:09:50 UTC  

while the car thing is going to be very damaging in the long run unless it is shown the guy was fleeing being attacked

2017-08-13 19:09:55 UTC  

the fucking memes from it are hilarious

2017-08-13 19:10:01 UTC  

They bring such joy to my life

2017-08-13 19:10:07 UTC  

without memes y live

2017-08-13 19:10:13 UTC  

nah, actual deaths are usually forgotten quickly

2017-08-13 19:10:37 UTC  

^

2017-08-13 19:10:40 UTC  

It's not a good but literally there is nothing we could have done to stop it

2017-08-13 19:10:42 UTC  

YEAH I am going say not since the optics, political environment now, it was a woman and leftist, not like 6 cops and dallas et al

2017-08-13 19:11:02 UTC  

Wasn't even a nigger

2017-08-13 19:11:13 UTC  

They don't give a fuck about a white person dying

2017-08-13 19:11:15 UTC  

Was she white?

2017-08-13 19:11:17 UTC  

Yea

2017-08-13 19:11:20 UTC  

they are going to beat us with this ala roof for quite some time, this is also post trump era where media is in a fucking panic to grab onto anything

2017-08-13 19:11:20 UTC  

Mudshark

2017-08-13 19:11:25 UTC  

yeah it was some 32 year old cat lady