I didn't say that I didn't believe you, just saying considering that the 7.62 is on the bigger size of medium cartrage class, it sounds weird.

7.62 is a win .308

avg 160 gr @ 2700 fps

Huh

big heavy and slower

avg 5.56 is 55 gr @ 3100 fps

Well the mm vs .inch sometimes gives me headaches. But yeah, that's how I've seen it so far.

A discovery channel series compared those two once.

the milspec loads are hotter

I think it was called "future weapons"

and the rounds are sometimes are solid alloy

Only the best for milispec

in europe they cant buy NATO rounds so they buy the .300 savage

I mean those are used by soldiers in wartime, no?

5.56 NATO and 7.62 NATO

Yes, NATO is the standard.

civi versions are the .223 and the win .308

I was reffering to milispec

Or was I wrong to presume?

milspec 5.56 is 55 gr @ +3300 fps

milspec 7.62 is 148gr @ +3000 fps

I'll take it its a company?

?

milspec = military specifications

Don't be so hard on me, as Germany I've got just enough knowledge to know an AR15 is not an assault rifle.

Ah.

As in "military grade ammunition"?

you in germany the best ammo you can buy is the .300 savage

its the parent casing for the .308

its a damn good round

And only if you're a hunter, a licenced body guard, police or military, but the last two fall out of the list.

fukkiing Germs

Tell me about it.

why did we save you again?

i cant remember

At least let me have and carry a handgun.

once you cleanse the brown stain from your country you wont need to carry

I'd still want to.

According to Teddy, the training with a firearm gives confidence.

i'm Canadian... we have pretty serious gun control... but if you are a law abiding citizen you can get away with un authorised concealed carry np

but