Message from @The Real Kaivik

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2018-03-30 14:08:29 UTC  

you're talking about the hydrodynamic shock factor

2018-03-30 14:09:05 UTC  

Well I'm not a firearms expert, so I welcome any education on the matter I can get.

2018-03-30 14:09:06 UTC  

a hypersonic round striking anywhere on the body can cause hemorrhaging in the brain

2018-03-30 14:09:46 UTC  

Like the 5.45×39mm?

2018-03-30 14:09:48 UTC  

vs

a large calibre supersonic or even subsonic round causing kinetic damage

2018-03-30 14:10:19 UTC  

any super or hyper sonic spitzer tipped round

2018-03-30 14:10:32 UTC  

I've heard of the AK74's rounds to be reffered to as super-sonic

2018-03-30 14:10:37 UTC  

vs a blunt nosed ball or wadcutter round

2018-03-30 14:10:51 UTC  

ak is supersonic

2018-03-30 14:11:08 UTC  

7.62x39mm

2018-03-30 14:11:26 UTC  

Hard to believe, considering the size.

2018-03-30 14:11:40 UTC  

hypersonic is usually referred to as above 3x speed of sound ( 3600 fps)

2018-03-30 14:12:09 UTC  

anything faster than the speed of sound is supersonic

2018-03-30 14:12:37 UTC  

Well yes, considering the word.

2018-03-30 14:13:09 UTC  

you can get 6.5 creedmoor +P with a 20 inch barrel to go hypersonic

2018-03-30 14:13:54 UTC  

I didn't say that I didn't believe you, just saying considering that the 7.62 is on the bigger size of medium cartrage class, it sounds weird.

2018-03-30 14:14:09 UTC  

7.62 is a win .308

2018-03-30 14:14:28 UTC  

avg 160 gr @ 2700 fps

2018-03-30 14:14:41 UTC  

Huh

2018-03-30 14:14:45 UTC  

big heavy and slower

2018-03-30 14:15:03 UTC  

avg 5.56 is 55 gr @ 3100 fps

2018-03-30 14:15:14 UTC  

Well the mm vs .inch sometimes gives me headaches. But yeah, that's how I've seen it so far.

2018-03-30 14:15:35 UTC  

A discovery channel series compared those two once.

2018-03-30 14:15:39 UTC  

the milspec loads are hotter

2018-03-30 14:15:47 UTC  

I think it was called "future weapons"

2018-03-30 14:15:56 UTC  

and the rounds are sometimes are solid alloy

2018-03-30 14:16:15 UTC  

Only the best for milispec

2018-03-30 14:16:29 UTC  

in europe they cant buy NATO rounds so they buy the .300 savage

2018-03-30 14:16:33 UTC  

I mean those are used by soldiers in wartime, no?

2018-03-30 14:16:51 UTC  

5.56 NATO and 7.62 NATO

2018-03-30 14:17:04 UTC  

Yes, NATO is the standard.

2018-03-30 14:17:07 UTC  

civi versions are the .223 and the win .308

2018-03-30 14:17:14 UTC  

I was reffering to milispec

2018-03-30 14:17:22 UTC  

Or was I wrong to presume?

2018-03-30 14:17:29 UTC  

milspec 5.56 is 55 gr @ +3300 fps

2018-03-30 14:17:50 UTC  

milspec 7.62 is 148gr @ +3000 fps

2018-03-30 14:17:52 UTC  

I'll take it its a company?

2018-03-30 14:18:13 UTC  

?

2018-03-30 14:18:38 UTC  

milspec = military specifications

2018-03-30 14:18:38 UTC  

Don't be so hard on me, as Germany I've got just enough knowledge to know an AR15 is not an assault rifle.

2018-03-30 14:18:43 UTC  

Ah.