Message from murky in Blue Politics #general-chat


2020-02-18 16:26:00 UTC  

gender isnt an identity 😐

2020-02-18 16:26:01 UTC  

@xeviax But what is the reason why in Western and so many other societies being born male leads to becoming a man? Why is it specifically a man? What causes it?

2020-02-18 16:26:04 UTC  

Literally fucking done

2020-02-18 16:26:05 UTC  

its a way of behaving

2020-02-18 16:26:06 UTC  

Bye

2020-02-18 16:26:08 UTC  

and looking

2020-02-18 16:26:19 UTC  

the behavior ties into that identity

2020-02-18 16:26:38 UTC  

Like I can identify as a dog if i want

2020-02-18 16:26:42 UTC  

but thats not what I am

2020-02-18 16:26:51 UTC  

dog isnt an identity

2020-02-18 16:26:53 UTC  

its a thing

2020-02-18 16:26:54 UTC  

yeah because dog refers to a species

2020-02-18 16:26:54 UTC  

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2020-02-18 16:26:54 UTC  

gender is not an identity

2020-02-18 16:26:56 UTC  

just like gender

2020-02-18 16:26:58 UTC  

sex is an identity

2020-02-18 16:27:02 UTC  

yeah

2020-02-18 16:27:03 UTC  

which is bullshit

2020-02-18 16:27:07 UTC  

no

2020-02-18 16:27:11 UTC  

some of them

2020-02-18 16:27:12 UTC  

not all

2020-02-18 16:27:15 UTC  

Sex is biological gender is an identity

2020-02-18 16:27:17 UTC  

but gender is not identity

2020-02-18 16:27:26 UTC  

gender is by definition a combination of how you identify, present yourself, and interact with society

2020-02-18 16:27:32 UTC  

Sex and gender are both constructs

2020-02-18 16:27:37 UTC  

so it is at least partially contingent on individual determination

2020-02-18 16:27:40 UTC  

People might have them as identities, but that doesnt mean that they are an idenity. Just as humanity is something someone might identity with, but thats not what it is.

2020-02-18 16:27:40 UTC  

@AlexHT its the exact opposite lmfao

2020-02-18 16:27:42 UTC  

Reject materialism

2020-02-18 16:27:46 UTC  

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist First off, when working with any sort of history here, you need to take into account this:The traditional suppression of trans people has long existed, similar to how gay people were suppressed and orcrastized if discovered. Such oppression is very much a part of history and you have to take that into account when discussing this.

2020-02-18 16:27:47 UTC  

gender is biological sex is identity

2020-02-18 16:27:52 UTC  
2020-02-18 16:27:53 UTC  

and anything other man or woman is a glitch

2020-02-18 16:28:02 UTC  

lol what

2020-02-18 16:28:09 UTC  

you got it all fucked bro

2020-02-18 16:28:10 UTC  

its harsh but its true

2020-02-18 16:28:24 UTC  

@Arc But they are a small part of it. It's like saying that for an Arab wearing Arab clothes determines Arab clothes. Arabs usually wear Arabs clothes so people could tell they're Arabs but if they wear say British or Chinese clothes it won't make them non-Arabs.

2020-02-18 16:28:30 UTC  

whats the point in reproductive organs that dont work to reproduce

2020-02-18 16:28:45 UTC  

and not including surgical procedures to become infertile

2020-02-18 16:28:50 UTC  

@xeviax Ok it happened. But why?

2020-02-18 16:28:58 UTC  

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist so gender roles are different across cultures?