Message from Hugh in Blue Politics #general-chat

2020-02-18 16:25:09 UTC  

yeah it is

2020-02-18 16:25:09 UTC  

so what's your point

2020-02-18 16:25:12 UTC  

Transgender men can be male or female

2020-02-18 16:25:14 UTC  

gender is inexorably linked to your connection to society so in a way hugh is right

2020-02-18 16:25:16 UTC  

if someone has physical feminine traits but is a man, until proved to me that they're not, they're a woman in my eyes. that doesnt meant that they are a woman

2020-02-18 16:25:18 UTC  

you silly man

2020-02-18 16:25:22 UTC  

@Hugh what is an objective standard of man or woman?

2020-02-18 16:25:28 UTC  

Youre only the gender people preserve you as

2020-02-18 16:25:31 UTC  

Arguing gender is somehow only dependent on interaction and perception is such a low iq take. Yikes.

2020-02-18 16:25:31 UTC  

its just what my perspective allows me to believe

2020-02-18 16:25:33 UTC  

physicality isnt the only factor lol

2020-02-18 16:25:35 UTC  

Transgender women can be male or female

2020-02-18 16:25:38 UTC  

Im not saying there is an objective standard idiot

2020-02-18 16:25:45 UTC  

I literally told this guy hair isnt restricted and agreee with him and he turns around and talks shit about transgender people

2020-02-18 16:25:48 UTC  

Ignoring the identity and conception aspect of gender.. Yikes.

2020-02-18 16:25:49 UTC  

stop with these leading questions that have nothing to do with what im saying

2020-02-18 16:25:58 UTC  

When a second ago he was butthurt about hairstyles

2020-02-18 16:26:00 UTC  

gender isnt an identity 😐

2020-02-18 16:26:01 UTC  

@xeviax But what is the reason why in Western and so many other societies being born male leads to becoming a man? Why is it specifically a man? What causes it?

2020-02-18 16:26:04 UTC  

Literally fucking done

2020-02-18 16:26:05 UTC  

its a way of behaving

2020-02-18 16:26:06 UTC  


2020-02-18 16:26:08 UTC  

and looking

2020-02-18 16:26:19 UTC  

the behavior ties into that identity

2020-02-18 16:26:38 UTC  

Like I can identify as a dog if i want

2020-02-18 16:26:42 UTC  

but thats not what I am

2020-02-18 16:26:51 UTC  

dog isnt an identity

2020-02-18 16:26:53 UTC  

its a thing

2020-02-18 16:26:54 UTC  

yeah because dog refers to a species

2020-02-18 16:26:54 UTC  


2020-02-18 16:26:54 UTC  

gender is not an identity

2020-02-18 16:26:56 UTC  

just like gender

2020-02-18 16:26:58 UTC  

sex is an identity

2020-02-18 16:27:02 UTC  


2020-02-18 16:27:03 UTC  

which is bullshit

2020-02-18 16:27:07 UTC  


2020-02-18 16:27:11 UTC  

some of them

2020-02-18 16:27:12 UTC  

not all

2020-02-18 16:27:15 UTC  

Sex is biological gender is an identity

2020-02-18 16:27:17 UTC  

but gender is not identity

2020-02-18 16:27:26 UTC  

gender is by definition a combination of how you identify, present yourself, and interact with society