Message from Balrog in Blue Politics #general-chat


2020-02-18 16:26:54 UTC  

gender is not an identity

2020-02-18 16:26:56 UTC  

just like gender

2020-02-18 16:26:58 UTC  

sex is an identity

2020-02-18 16:27:02 UTC  

yeah

2020-02-18 16:27:03 UTC  

which is bullshit

2020-02-18 16:27:07 UTC  

no

2020-02-18 16:27:11 UTC  

some of them

2020-02-18 16:27:12 UTC  

not all

2020-02-18 16:27:15 UTC  

Sex is biological gender is an identity

2020-02-18 16:27:17 UTC  

but gender is not identity

2020-02-18 16:27:26 UTC  

gender is by definition a combination of how you identify, present yourself, and interact with society

2020-02-18 16:27:32 UTC  

Sex and gender are both constructs

2020-02-18 16:27:37 UTC  

so it is at least partially contingent on individual determination

2020-02-18 16:27:40 UTC  

People might have them as identities, but that doesnt mean that they are an idenity. Just as humanity is something someone might identity with, but thats not what it is.

2020-02-18 16:27:40 UTC  

@AlexHT its the exact opposite lmfao

2020-02-18 16:27:42 UTC  

Reject materialism

2020-02-18 16:27:46 UTC  

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist First off, when working with any sort of history here, you need to take into account this:The traditional suppression of trans people has long existed, similar to how gay people were suppressed and orcrastized if discovered. Such oppression is very much a part of history and you have to take that into account when discussing this.

2020-02-18 16:27:47 UTC  

gender is biological sex is identity

2020-02-18 16:27:52 UTC  
2020-02-18 16:27:53 UTC  

and anything other man or woman is a glitch

2020-02-18 16:28:02 UTC  

lol what

2020-02-18 16:28:09 UTC  

you got it all fucked bro

2020-02-18 16:28:10 UTC  

its harsh but its true

2020-02-18 16:28:24 UTC  

@Arc But they are a small part of it. It's like saying that for an Arab wearing Arab clothes determines Arab clothes. Arabs usually wear Arabs clothes so people could tell they're Arabs but if they wear say British or Chinese clothes it won't make them non-Arabs.

2020-02-18 16:28:30 UTC  

whats the point in reproductive organs that dont work to reproduce

2020-02-18 16:28:45 UTC  

and not including surgical procedures to become infertile

2020-02-18 16:28:50 UTC  

@xeviax Ok it happened. But why?

2020-02-18 16:28:58 UTC  

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist so gender roles are different across cultures?

2020-02-18 16:29:05 UTC  

How can this be?

2020-02-18 16:29:25 UTC  

@Arc Clothing is different across cultures.

2020-02-18 16:29:30 UTC  

And history.

2020-02-18 16:29:43 UTC  

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist but surly we will see similar clothing if this is biological

2020-02-18 16:29:52 UTC  

Correct?

2020-02-18 16:30:04 UTC  

@Heterosexual Gamer Monarchist But why what? As for the second point, merely because a lot of "males" fit with their gender identity of being "men", that doesn't mean it applies to the millions of trans/nonbinary individuals that don't find this fitting for them.

2020-02-18 16:30:25 UTC  

Like, this is a sizeable phenomona. A major one.

2020-02-18 16:30:33 UTC  

😐

2020-02-18 16:30:44 UTC  

If you want to see notes on some of the science conducted so far (2016 but still)

2020-02-18 16:30:53 UTC  

gender isnt a science thing

2020-02-18 16:30:56 UTC  

sociology isn't science

2020-02-18 16:30:58 UTC  

idiot