Message from Soyaman in /r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #politics-free-for-all
Contradictory statements are contradictory
But it still doesn't make it any less of a problem.
It really does
Well, less of a problem than you and others make it out to be
A problem doesn't become more or less of a problem because it's worse somewhere else in the world.
I might've used some overly harsh words, Brian.
But it's a threat to the fundamentals of western society values still.
It's something that needs to be looked at seriously.
And quickly too.
It's a steadily declining influence
Is it? Because it was recently put into a bunch of states.
Not the other way around.
That's interesting. Do you have a source for that?
It might've been in Louisiana.
Gonna have to look it up again.
That would make sense
Not a threat to national security though
Now who's on the wrong side of the fence?
It not being related to national security doesn't make it any less of a problem.
There also seems to be way more states than I initially thought.
To me it does
National security is my primary concern
Shit. Then why not give up all your rights then.
It's easier to secure the nation if no one has any rights.
It's not necessary
And I would argue against the long-term security of an Authoritarian state
I don't understand what religion and national security have to do with eachother, good or bad.
A global caliphate would certainly compromise national security
But the original issue was religion in the United States
No it was a comparison between religion in the US and radical Islam
Soyaman went on to make that comparison to try to reinforce his point, and while I don't agree the two can be compared, I think the original issue still stands that religion in the United States still poses many problems even if they aren't necessarily threats to national security.
I agree with that
I'm no fan of delusion
I conceded the point that it's not a comparison to radical islam.
I know you have, I'm not trying to assign viewpoints to anybody. I'm just going back over what happened and trying to untangle the topics here, since they were getting a bit muddied together.
Religion poisons everything
I agree 100%
Unfortunately religion seems to be symptomatic of a deeper flaw that is faith
i think religion is a symptom of humans natural tribal desire for heirarchy combined with the best explanation of the universe a bunch of stone age people could create, thats been perpetuated throughout history by the mutually beneficial relationship between religion and state
I guess I mean mostly in its current embodiment
there literally wasn't anything close to a better explanation available, there are probably more atheists alive now than in the rest of human history
Once the statist and scientific aspects have been replaced
its an empty hull of blind faith and god of the gaps arguments