Message from BrianBoru in /r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #politics-free-for-all
Not the other way around.
That's interesting. Do you have a source for that?
It might've been in Louisiana.
Gonna have to look it up again.
That would make sense
Not a threat to national security though
Now who's on the wrong side of the fence?
It not being related to national security doesn't make it any less of a problem.
There also seems to be way more states than I initially thought.
To me it does
National security is my primary concern
Shit. Then why not give up all your rights then.
It's easier to secure the nation if no one has any rights.
It's not necessary
And I would argue against the long-term security of an Authoritarian state
I don't understand what religion and national security have to do with eachother, good or bad.
A global caliphate would certainly compromise national security
But the original issue was religion in the United States
No it was a comparison between religion in the US and radical Islam
Soyaman went on to make that comparison to try to reinforce his point, and while I don't agree the two can be compared, I think the original issue still stands that religion in the United States still poses many problems even if they aren't necessarily threats to national security.
I agree with that
I'm no fan of delusion
I conceded the point that it's not a comparison to radical islam.
I know you have, I'm not trying to assign viewpoints to anybody. I'm just going back over what happened and trying to untangle the topics here, since they were getting a bit muddied together.
Religion poisons everything
I agree 100%
Unfortunately religion seems to be symptomatic of a deeper flaw that is faith
i think religion is a symptom of humans natural tribal desire for heirarchy combined with the best explanation of the universe a bunch of stone age people could create, thats been perpetuated throughout history by the mutually beneficial relationship between religion and state
I guess I mean mostly in its current embodiment
there literally wasn't anything close to a better explanation available, there are probably more atheists alive now than in the rest of human history
Once the statist and scientific aspects have been replaced
its an empty hull of blind faith and god of the gaps arguments
There are still foundations of wishful thinking, i.e. afterlife
creationist arguments after you boil off the long dead bullshit you're just left with "look how pretty the sunrise is" etc and misuse of the words "chance" and "theory"
Masturbating to their own awe
i had an interesting chat with an ex-atheist catholic traditionalist on poldare and basically all his arguments were based on a fundamental denial of objective truth in favor of his feels
much along the same ideological lines of early fascism, unironic feels before reals
A tenuous comparison imo, but devaluing logic and reason is contrary to any productive system of thought
his justification was decidedly vague shit like "experiences i couldnt explain" etc
God loves those gaps