Message from @franti

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2017-11-06 17:25:12 UTC  

the point is that there is no logical distinction between weapon and non-weapon

2017-11-06 17:25:18 UTC  

There is.

2017-11-06 17:25:27 UTC  

What about an ornamental sword?

2017-11-06 17:25:36 UTC  

It's not made for usage at all

2017-11-06 17:26:12 UTC  

Most kitchen knives are made to cut meat but not necessarily cleave through a man.
A cleaver is made to cleave the bone in meat on a table but it's horrible to try to cleave down an actual person. For that you have *larger* and generally sharper *weapons* made.

2017-11-06 17:26:21 UTC  

so if I kill somebody with, say, a benchrest gun, its a rifle that is used exclusively for high-accuracy target shooting and can't even be weilded as its literally bolted to a table, is it not a weapon?

2017-11-06 17:26:24 UTC  

Also generally known as. Here it comes. Swords.

2017-11-06 17:26:28 UTC  

Swords are weapons.

2017-11-06 17:26:39 UTC  

Guns are made for killing, they're inherently weapons.

2017-11-06 17:26:42 UTC  

ugh

2017-11-06 17:26:49 UTC  

that statement is factually untrue

2017-11-06 17:27:08 UTC  

I can name you several dozen guns clearly not designed for lethal use

2017-11-06 17:27:10 UTC  

What about a target pistol made specifically for competitive shooting?

2017-11-06 17:27:26 UTC  

Literally designed from the blueprint to be used in competition

2017-11-06 17:27:43 UTC  

Using an unicorn to disprove a trend

2017-11-06 17:28:08 UTC  

flare pistols, line guns, bench rifles, etc etc etc

2017-11-06 17:28:29 UTC  

Are those the majority of guns?

2017-11-06 17:28:54 UTC  

They're a subset, and certainly not one-off

2017-11-06 17:28:56 UTC  

no, but nevertheless they are guns which are not weapons

2017-11-06 17:28:59 UTC  

And flare pistolf have a designated use

2017-11-06 17:29:09 UTC  

But you said pistol

2017-11-06 17:29:12 UTC  

lol actually no

2017-11-06 17:29:14 UTC  

Which is a gun

2017-11-06 17:29:23 UTC  

i have a 37mm flaregun I use an adapter for to shoot shotgun shells

2017-11-06 17:29:28 UTC  

intended use be damned

2017-11-06 17:29:30 UTC  

Oh snap

2017-11-06 17:29:45 UTC  

You're literally not helping your cause here mate.

2017-11-06 17:30:06 UTC  

Your logic is so far out of the window it's not even funny.

2017-11-06 17:30:20 UTC  

What about potato guns?

2017-11-06 17:30:37 UTC  

my point is that even if you make the absurd statement that guns can even be intrinsicly weapons, that not all guns *are* weapons, but even those can be used outside of their intended purpose

2017-11-06 17:30:38 UTC  

Made out of pvc and compressed air

2017-11-06 17:30:54 UTC  

UK banned katanas, right? That sure stopped the increase of criminal samurais.

2017-11-06 17:30:59 UTC  

If this is still going on after my midterm I will gladly jump in.

2017-11-06 17:30:59 UTC  

its because intended purpose is completely meaningless

2017-11-06 17:31:00 UTC  

Should pvc pipe be regulated?

2017-11-06 17:31:25 UTC  

Also air?

2017-11-06 17:31:39 UTC  

i guarantee you that if there were a potato gun attack in the UK they would start doing ID checks for hairspray and piping.

2017-11-06 17:31:57 UTC  

And regulate the sale of potatoes.

2017-11-06 17:32:09 UTC  

You have carry your ID always so that is a moot point

2017-11-06 17:32:17 UTC  

"Sir, are you licensed to buy those vegetables?