Message from @Soyaman

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2017-11-06 17:22:58 UTC  

a rubber mallet is absolutely a weapon if you start attacking people with it, you can't logically deny that

2017-11-06 17:23:10 UTC  

nothing is intrinsicly assaulting people

2017-11-06 17:23:16 UTC  

It can be used *as* a weapon. But it isn't inherently a weapon.

2017-11-06 17:23:20 UTC  

THANK YOU

2017-11-06 17:23:28 UTC  

now we've come to some clarity

2017-11-06 17:23:39 UTC  

As if that somehow proves your point, but go on.

2017-11-06 17:23:43 UTC  

nothing is a weapon by default, it can only be *used* as a weapon

2017-11-06 17:24:07 UTC  

Things made for killing are weapons by default.

2017-11-06 17:24:24 UTC  

I have a czech military surplus rifle easily capable of downing 20 men, but the most fearsome thing i've ever shot with it is a pumpkin

2017-11-06 17:24:30 UTC  

it is not a weapon

2017-11-06 17:24:34 UTC  

Is a shotgun that fires bean bags a weapon?

2017-11-06 17:24:38 UTC  

not in the strictest sense

2017-11-06 17:25:07 UTC  

You're trying to argue that because you don't use your sword to cut down people it was never made for cutting down people to begin with.

2017-11-06 17:25:12 UTC  

the point is that there is no logical distinction between weapon and non-weapon

2017-11-06 17:25:18 UTC  

There is.

2017-11-06 17:25:27 UTC  

What about an ornamental sword?

2017-11-06 17:25:36 UTC  

It's not made for usage at all

2017-11-06 17:26:12 UTC  

Most kitchen knives are made to cut meat but not necessarily cleave through a man.
A cleaver is made to cleave the bone in meat on a table but it's horrible to try to cleave down an actual person. For that you have *larger* and generally sharper *weapons* made.

2017-11-06 17:26:21 UTC  

so if I kill somebody with, say, a benchrest gun, its a rifle that is used exclusively for high-accuracy target shooting and can't even be weilded as its literally bolted to a table, is it not a weapon?

2017-11-06 17:26:24 UTC  

Also generally known as. Here it comes. Swords.

2017-11-06 17:26:28 UTC  

Swords are weapons.

2017-11-06 17:26:39 UTC  

Guns are made for killing, they're inherently weapons.

2017-11-06 17:26:42 UTC  

ugh

2017-11-06 17:26:49 UTC  

that statement is factually untrue

2017-11-06 17:27:08 UTC  

I can name you several dozen guns clearly not designed for lethal use

2017-11-06 17:27:10 UTC  

What about a target pistol made specifically for competitive shooting?

2017-11-06 17:27:26 UTC  

Literally designed from the blueprint to be used in competition

2017-11-06 17:27:43 UTC  

Using an unicorn to disprove a trend

2017-11-06 17:28:08 UTC  

flare pistols, line guns, bench rifles, etc etc etc

2017-11-06 17:28:29 UTC  

Are those the majority of guns?

2017-11-06 17:28:54 UTC  

They're a subset, and certainly not one-off

2017-11-06 17:28:56 UTC  

no, but nevertheless they are guns which are not weapons

2017-11-06 17:28:59 UTC  

And flare pistolf have a designated use

2017-11-06 17:29:09 UTC  

But you said pistol

2017-11-06 17:29:12 UTC  

lol actually no

2017-11-06 17:29:14 UTC  

Which is a gun

2017-11-06 17:29:23 UTC  

i have a 37mm flaregun I use an adapter for to shoot shotgun shells

2017-11-06 17:29:28 UTC  

intended use be damned

2017-11-06 17:29:30 UTC  

Oh snap

2017-11-06 17:29:45 UTC  

You're literally not helping your cause here mate.