why not both

the second ammendment is there as a deterrnet, but in the worst situation it justifies it to the larger population.

sooooo both of you are correct

@franti why can't you accept people have individual agency?

you really think you know better than other people as to what they should do with their life?

fucking collectivists.

Why can't you own tanks and such?

So you assert that people have free will?

you can

I'm gonna buy a tank one day and drive it around in an open field

yeha, the largest gun a American can actually buy is basically an artillery piece

are there any private tanks then? How about some personal nuclear devices

people can own tanks

pretty big

http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/US/photos/Privately-owned_M18-Hellcat_Museum-of-the-American-GI2007-open-house_reenactment.jpg privately owned

https://www.drivetanks.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Mid-Page-Images-700-1-1.jpg

this too

does it stand a chance against a modern one?

you just can't have the ammo i guess

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/02/legal-to-buy-a-tank/

The US government would never Nuke it's own population because they would be destroying themselves

It does not

An Abrams would fuck that thing up

no but these are whats actually available

perhaps not, but you could keep them off your backs

you can buy an abrams!

you don't own a tank to fight with it

theres nothing about an abrams that make them illegal to own they're simply not sold

how about some private drones

you own it to collect it

military grade

the same thing with a old car

you can own a Jet

F16s

there are lots of vietnam era fighters in private hands

you might use sometimes, but it's mostly say you have it

even if its no good for fighting its still easily usable for air support

anti-tank weapons are crazy easy to make btw

Would get fucked up by an Abrams

Molotov coctails were used as anti tank weapons