@Fulcrum010 How things are vs how things ought to be

The issues with race realism seem to be policy implications etc

oh, got it

never heard it like this before

Irrelevant to the truth of the observation of racial differences

That's pretty much where the arguments about race realism come from.

How is that the same thing as white nationalism? (Ought)

Depends on what kind of white nationalist you're talking about

Not really

The whitish nationalist-ish kind

There's the "keep white nations white via implying the law and kicking out illegal non-white" white nationalists and the "Ethno state" white nationalists.

Neither of those necessarily follows race realism

And I don't see the distinction really

But race realism can lead to it

It's a half step

Slippery slope huh?

Slorp

yeah

not saying it's true for every race-realist though

Well can we recognize that we are intelligent adults who won't automatically fall down that slope?

So we can actually acknowledge reality

Intelligent adults? Nowadays?

Yes, you can

So conflating race realism with ethnonationalism is unproductive

It only fuels extremism on both sides

Yes

And i will admit, I am guilty of conflating these at one point

> They're the same thing, imo

@BrianBoru i guess everyone here knows that race exists and that some difference between then exists.


What we are talking about is the crowd that go, "blacks are genetically inferior" and etc

Then we are all race realists

Congratulations

Race realism =/= racial supremacy

the term race realist is used to describe a individual who tend to impose their bullshit on others, those individuals tend to be white supremacists

Black people are more susceptible to sickle cell anemia.

RACISM

That use is a bullshit loading of the term

Poisoning the well

it's not bullshit

is how is used

And feminist means equality and communism means sharing

like, it's obvious that differences exists

Oh he got you on that one