Message from @Soyaman

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2017-11-07 05:53:59 UTC  

I haven't seen much from him

2017-11-07 05:54:42 UTC  

And I'm talking about guns that are the same as carbines except for the mechanism that reloads it is different, but have a bout the same fire rate.

2017-11-07 05:55:21 UTC  

He plays too much into party politics. He’s literally mainstream media but indie

2017-11-07 05:56:00 UTC  

He is much more credible than most MSM

2017-11-07 05:56:12 UTC  

He is definitely a conservative

2017-11-07 05:56:22 UTC  

Low bar.

2017-11-07 05:56:30 UTC  

Whatever

2017-11-07 05:56:36 UTC  

I respect his style

2017-11-07 05:56:59 UTC  

He tries to come with facts to support his arguments and seems legitimately open to other ideas

2017-11-07 05:57:27 UTC  

His bias is there, but he doesn't try to hide it or lie about it

2017-11-07 05:57:43 UTC  

A self serving conservative though. He doesn’t seem as interested in improving his own group as much as just discredit the other one

2017-11-07 05:57:50 UTC  

He presents a very reasonable conservative position

2017-11-07 05:58:14 UTC  

Well there is a lot to criticize idk

2017-11-07 05:59:32 UTC  

I haven't found a more insightful conservative voice

2017-11-07 05:59:42 UTC  

Though I need to look more into Ben Shapiro

2017-11-07 06:00:20 UTC  

I prefer Ben Shapiro, although I'm not a huge fan, but he makes good arguments, especially against SJWs.

2017-11-07 06:00:34 UTC  

Self critique is important if you want genuine improvement.

2017-11-07 06:00:47 UTC  

I'm not even looking for someone I strongly agree with

2017-11-07 06:01:10 UTC  

Just people with some intellectual rigor and curiosity

2017-11-07 06:01:21 UTC  

And different perspectives

2017-11-07 06:01:33 UTC  

I know we’re on sargons discord but he’s not much better

2017-11-07 06:01:55 UTC  

Who passes your bar then?

2017-11-07 06:02:26 UTC  

In the English media? Genuinely. No one person.

2017-11-07 06:03:04 UTC  

No one worth watching?

2017-11-07 06:04:05 UTC  

No one is interested in actual politics. More afraid of the big bad sjw. Meanwhile the nhs is being sold off to private investors and whatnot.

2017-11-07 06:04:52 UTC  

You can watch who you want but barely anyone touches on anything valuable and if they do. Generally it plays into party politics

2017-11-07 06:08:32 UTC  

Trying to find ideologically pure people to watch is a fruitless endeavor

2017-11-07 06:08:37 UTC  

Well I'm American

2017-11-07 06:09:01 UTC  

It isn't about finding someone who agrees with you totally it's finding rational people and comparing their arguments and coming to your own conclusions

2017-11-07 06:09:03 UTC  

And I find party politics fascinating if frustrating

2017-11-07 06:09:34 UTC  

If you take someone else's opinion as holy writ you're no better than the normies

2017-11-07 06:10:07 UTC  

Sargons the closest to me I've found and even I disagree with him regularly

2017-11-07 06:10:42 UTC  

I never said there's no strain. But in party politics facts are generally thrown out of the windows in favour of "I prefer this"
You get MORE strain the more parties you have with different solutions to a problem.
But as long as people agree on the facts you can then decide if you care about them or not.

2017-11-07 06:11:54 UTC  

And I don't ask people to be ideologically pure, but rather just be honest about the problems at hand and the decisions that needs to be made.
People are so afraid to make their own side look weak they end up conjuring lies to cover it.

2017-11-07 06:12:24 UTC  

How is Sargon dishonest?

2017-11-07 06:12:34 UTC  

I don't know where you got that word from.

2017-11-07 06:12:54 UTC  

>but rather just be honest about the problems at hand

2017-11-07 06:13:29 UTC  

And earlier you implied Sargon wasn't much better

2017-11-07 06:13:46 UTC  

So what's he wrong on, to you?

2017-11-07 06:15:30 UTC  

As mentioned earlier. Most "political" youtubers avoid actual politics.
I implied Sargon avoids real daily politics in favour of talking about some moronic blogger. Which is fine, but it's doing little on the political debate.
I never said Sargon was dishonest. From what I've noted (albeit I don't watch ALL of his stuff) he generally seems to cover the material properly when something is brought up, but he has to handpick the few things he wants to talk about.

The disbenefit of not being a major network, you can't cover everything. So it's fair. I just think he priotises things incorrectly.

2017-11-07 06:15:57 UTC  

Indeed