Message from @franti

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2017-11-10 09:39:00 UTC  

I don't own a gun myself, but to kind of understand their points better you have to think of it in different terms. Imagine if you owned a truck, for example. Legally purchased, you got your license, etc.
Then, following one of these truck attacks, everybody started calling for trucks to be taken away, or restricted, or trying to ban you from buying accessories for your truck (like different tires, rims, hubcaps, lights, etc.). You'd feel pretty wrongly victimized, since you didn't do anything. You followed the law, you did everything right, and now you're being indirectly punished for something somebody else did, legally-obtained truck or not.

2017-11-10 09:42:50 UTC  

Thug and gang culture

2017-11-10 09:42:58 UTC  

Drugs etc

2017-11-10 09:44:45 UTC  

And how have things detoriated to this extend then?

2017-11-10 09:44:47 UTC  

Something happened in the 80's and 90's. Thug culture became the default and education was looked down on as "white people shit"

2017-11-10 09:45:09 UTC  

My cousin used to teach in New York City

2017-11-10 09:45:39 UTC  

The drugs are a problem

2017-11-10 09:45:54 UTC  

Mostly the laced stuff

2017-11-10 09:46:50 UTC  

She couldn't take it anymore because the kids hated having to go to school, constant arrests, drug possession, several times kids brought guns to school just because they had them and wanted to show off

2017-11-10 09:47:10 UTC  

I havent see a workable solution yet and banning guns will make gun owners only criminals

2017-11-10 09:47:43 UTC  

There is a demonization of education in those communities

2017-11-10 09:47:54 UTC  

On top of poor funding

2017-11-10 09:48:00 UTC  

Oh I have an idea

2017-11-10 09:48:40 UTC  

What do you say If the wellfare was tied to school atendeance?

2017-11-10 09:48:51 UTC  

One major boost would be to fund education far more

2017-11-10 09:49:00 UTC  

Oh boy

2017-11-10 09:49:16 UTC  

Well

2017-11-10 09:49:29 UTC  

The parents are the ones on welfare

2017-11-10 09:49:35 UTC  

You dont get your child to shcool no welfare for you

2017-11-10 09:49:47 UTC  

The kids are just there to boost income via welfare

2017-11-10 09:50:20 UTC  

And you wont get the welfare unless you educate them

2017-11-10 09:50:40 UTC  

I feel that might just cause them to abandon truant kids more than anything. They're already costing you money to raise, and now having them is a liability if they don't show up to school

2017-11-10 09:51:20 UTC  

Well it didnt cause the gypsies to abandon theirs here

2017-11-10 09:51:27 UTC  

Probably wouldn't work. We're not even allowed to drug test for welfare, it's ridiculous

2017-11-10 09:51:58 UTC  

And it's very different cultures

2017-11-10 09:52:02 UTC  

This is cheaper than drug testing

2017-11-10 09:52:54 UTC  

Also open up new abortion clinics near black neighbourhoods

2017-11-10 09:53:24 UTC  

Classic eugenics lol

2017-11-10 09:53:30 UTC  

Jk

2017-11-10 09:53:50 UTC  

Not really forcing them to have abortion would be it

2017-11-10 09:54:38 UTC  

Less unwanted children leads to less deliquents and leads to less crime

2017-11-10 09:55:21 UTC  

Totally agree

2017-11-10 09:56:23 UTC  

Gonna have to pitch it to conservatives as eugenics though if you want to get more clinics

2017-11-10 09:57:36 UTC  

How about telling them this is the most pragmatic aproach and they should stop morallfagging

2017-11-10 10:00:34 UTC  

Eugenics is not really a conservative thing though.

2017-11-10 10:00:38 UTC  

It's literally quite the opposite.

2017-11-10 10:09:13 UTC  

Eh bad joke

2017-11-10 15:55:53 UTC  

People don't realize that there are eugenic behaviors we all enact, if you consider eugenics with the widest lense possible.

2017-11-10 15:56:02 UTC  

Not fucking your cousin is a eugenic behavior.

2017-11-10 15:56:39 UTC  

😉

2017-11-10 15:58:06 UTC  

As far as who to pitch to to get the technology into use, that's a hard one. I'm no marketer so it's hard to say.