Message from @Reaps

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2017-11-10 16:14:52 UTC  

But it seems most people just want to say all of eugenics is the obviously evil stuff

2017-11-10 16:14:58 UTC  

Wells did seem like quite a pro-leviathan guy

2017-11-10 16:15:07 UTC  

My english teacher a while back tried to say that all of eugenics was based in phrenology.

2017-11-10 16:15:18 UTC  

which is profoundly ignorant of eugenics

2017-11-10 16:15:30 UTC  

pro-leviathan?

2017-11-10 16:15:33 UTC  

what's that?

2017-11-10 16:17:31 UTC  

mm, I might have misused the term, gimme a sec to dig out the right book

2017-11-10 16:17:47 UTC  

At the very least he was more a proponent of the benevolent dictator

2017-11-10 16:18:01 UTC  

or a group of smart people making the decisions for everyone else

2017-11-10 16:18:06 UTC  

(sounds familiar)

2017-11-10 16:19:26 UTC  

*National Anthem of USSR plays*

2017-11-10 16:21:25 UTC  

Weird to think he was a Fabian for a while

2017-11-10 16:21:36 UTC  

Not so weird that he left them because they weren't imaginative enough for him

2017-11-10 16:22:06 UTC  

actually

2017-11-10 16:22:08 UTC  

*rummages*

2017-11-10 16:23:02 UTC  

Hobbs

2017-11-10 16:23:09 UTC  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_H.G._Wells

His most consistent political ideal was the World State. He stated in his autobiography that from 1900 onward he considered a World State inevitable. He envisioned the state to be a planned society that would advance science, end nationalism, and allow people to progress by merit rather than birth. Wells's 1928 book The Open Conspiracy argued that groups of campaigners should begin advocating for a "world commonwealth", governed by a scientific elite, that would work to eliminate problems such as poverty and warfare.

In 1932, he told Young Liberals at the University of Oxford that progressive leaders must become liberal fascists or enlightened Nazis who would "compete in their enthusiasm and self-sacrifice" against the advocates of dictatorship. In 1940, Wells published a book called The New World Order that outlined his plan as to how a World Government would be set up. In The New World Order, Wells admitted that the establishment of such a government could take a long time, and be created in a piecemeal fashion.

2017-11-10 16:23:09 UTC  

the book the leviathan?

2017-11-10 16:23:47 UTC  

indeed

2017-11-10 16:23:49 UTC  

oh man

2017-11-10 16:24:05 UTC  

HG Wells is all over the map

2017-11-10 16:24:15 UTC  

love his books

2017-11-10 16:24:18 UTC  

I can see Alex Jones inviting him on

2017-11-10 16:24:22 UTC  

hp lovecraft

2017-11-10 16:24:28 UTC  

And also chastisting him

2017-11-10 16:24:41 UTC  

reaps has accended

2017-11-10 16:24:49 UTC  

congrats!!!

2017-11-10 16:25:03 UTC  

but yea hp lovecraft is my favorite

2017-11-10 16:25:11 UTC  

whilst talking about HG Wells, hmm

2017-11-10 16:25:43 UTC  

nonetheless, HG Wells is a great example of how difficult it can be to nail someone down to one set of political beliefs

2017-11-10 16:26:03 UTC  

Then again, late-19th/early-20th century was full of political ideas being tried out

2017-11-10 16:26:38 UTC  

for sure

2017-11-10 16:27:02 UTC  

one of my other favorites

2017-11-10 16:27:21 UTC  

Starship Troopers?

2017-11-10 16:27:23 UTC  

*clicks*

2017-11-10 16:27:33 UTC  

yup

2017-11-10 16:28:04 UTC  

i have read most of his books

2017-11-10 16:28:08 UTC  

So weird to think the same guy who made Robocop made Starship Troopers and essentially admitted that he found the book 'boring', didn't finish it, and made a film that was... not very much like ST

2017-11-10 16:28:30 UTC  

The movie pissed me off

2017-11-10 16:28:39 UTC  

heh