Message from OppoQuinn in /r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #politics-free-for-all

2017-11-11 22:26:34 UTC  

fair enough

2017-11-11 22:27:09 UTC  

they need to at least be consolidated into one program (in the US that is)

2017-11-11 22:28:29 UTC  

And charities waste an enormous amount of money

2017-11-11 22:28:48 UTC  

not really

2017-11-11 22:28:55 UTC  

Just look at the red cross

2017-11-11 22:28:59 UTC  

compared to how social systems work

2017-11-11 22:29:08 UTC  

they have to pay people

2017-11-11 22:29:20 UTC  

just like the government does

2017-11-11 22:29:43 UTC  

If you donate donate it to your local church or something like that

2017-11-11 22:30:12 UTC  

Also his stance on the separation of church of state wories me

2017-11-11 22:31:02 UTC  

dont you guys pay a church tax though?

2017-11-11 22:32:03 UTC  

I think the main point of his ideas are still Liberty>security

2017-11-11 22:34:10 UTC  

Yes we pay

2017-11-11 22:34:28 UTC  

in a way that gives them a say in your gov?

2017-11-11 22:34:40 UTC  

Not much

2017-11-11 22:34:54 UTC  

Mostly holidays

2017-11-11 22:35:10 UTC  

We have to close the stores

2017-11-11 22:35:57 UTC  

And we have religious education aviable but it isnt mandatory

2017-11-11 22:36:32 UTC  

but it is still some say

2017-11-11 22:37:07 UTC  

the problem i have with Sep of Church and State in the US is how they got that specific verbage

2017-11-11 22:38:28 UTC  

And you still have the occasional judge/politician that bases some absolutely retarded decision on some backwards and literal interpretation of the bible.

2017-11-11 22:39:27 UTC  

And then he goes on a rant how UK shouldnt have alowwed muslims in

2017-11-11 22:39:45 UTC  

Making no differentiation beween muslim and islamist

2017-11-11 22:40:33 UTC  

I am not from UK so its kinda hard for me to judge that

2017-11-11 22:41:07 UTC  

They have had alot more problems in that area than the US

2017-11-11 22:43:35 UTC  

Yes because they alowed way too many people in a short time ad created paralel societies

2017-11-11 22:44:01 UTC  

I think it has more to deal with barriers to entry through welfare

2017-11-11 22:44:22 UTC  

if welfare pays more than a low paying job there is a problem

2017-11-11 22:44:45 UTC  

The best path to assimilation is work

2017-11-11 22:45:00 UTC  

And it shoudnt but that is not an argument for its abolishment

2017-11-11 22:46:16 UTC  

no but it is an example of how groups will not assimilate in large numbers

2017-11-11 22:47:13 UTC  

And something I noticed is in the idea of free trade

2017-11-11 22:47:34 UTC  

Nobody talks about reciprocity

2017-11-11 22:47:54 UTC  

how so?

2017-11-11 22:48:14 UTC  

Should we do free trade with china?

2017-11-11 22:48:37 UTC  

We allow them to buy land, companies etc.

2017-11-11 22:48:49 UTC  

They dont return the favour

2017-11-11 22:48:58 UTC  

It depends

2017-11-11 22:49:39 UTC  

I say we should prioritise trading If the laws are the same

2017-11-11 22:49:57 UTC  

you have to make markets in your own country competitve first through deregulation before you can have free trade

2017-11-11 22:50:22 UTC  

If you trade with protectionists without concetions you look like a sucker