I keep seeing people arguing in favour of NN because "there's only one ISP in my area and-" but noone seems to have asked why there's only one ISP in their area. I might do some digging myself, but off the cuff it really wouldn't surprise me if a government organisation were at least partially responsible for that, be it at state, local, or federal level. For all the internet problems we have in my country, a lack of choice between ISPs is rarely one of them

You need the government's permission to lay wires around the land.

Also, now that the government has *less* influence in the mobile telco department, it's cheaper to ditch your landline phone and just use your mobile phone for local, state and even international calls

Mobile is easier on the infrastucture

The permission to build infrastructure often comes with exclusivity guarantees. As in, you won't have to spend your own money digging up pipes to burrow wires, only to have your competitor use the same pipes for his wires.

I'm also saying the government isn't playing favourites amongst the service providers in the mobile telco marketplace, or at least not to the extent that they are in other areas

That's why usually the duopoly is internet-by-phone-line or internet-by-cable.

Wires should be used like pipes

I still remember when an ISP approached my parents, who managed a townhouse complex in Sydney, with the opportunity to connect NBN cable to their complex

Parents agreed

Lay them down then let them be used by any company who pays for maintanence

Same thing with poles, for plebs using above-ground wiring.

Then NBNco, a government-owned corporation, barged in and basically declared "you can't do that! that's *our* job!"

this must've been around... whew.. 2011? I'd have to ask them next time I see them

But anyway

basically, no NBN for several more years

Entire thing has been a fucking debacle

Pretty sure Gold Coast city council has somehow managed to politick their way into laying their own NBN cable (HFC) because of how long NBNCo is taking to do it, and they want it all sorted out before the Commonwealth Games next year

Either way it doesnt concern me. NN is protected in Europe

Are you saying Europe has it's own codified law or..

he means EU, of course

It is codified

it was enacted in 2011 in the EU, like I said earlier

it was enacted in 2011 in the EU, like I said earlier

Just like roaming with mobile?

Yep

That was enacted this year i think

The companies were ripping us off

I'd like to see a copy of it

Now there is a proposal to end geoblocking

Because I wouldn't be surprised if certain exceptions were made

http://berec.europa.eu/eng/news_and_publications/whats_new/3958-launch-of-the-berec-net-neutrality-guidelines

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3am here

so shall read a little later

suffice to say that I am v e r y skeptical of the government riding in on a white horse when it comes to these issues

but I'm willing to give it a fair shake

no problem

I uderstand your position on it

the EU should be burned to the ground at this point, but the legislation they've enacted for consumer protection is stronger than anything in the world