Message from @folk

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2017-11-25 06:48:43 UTC  

@Durtle02 "bullshit!!!!"

2017-11-25 06:48:50 UTC  

Lol

2017-11-25 10:39:34 UTC  

how the fuck does it have 9k likes

2017-11-25 10:41:33 UTC  

they can say whatever they want, and then they can do whatever they want (even if it contradicts what they told you) without you knowing what the hell they're doing

2017-11-25 10:41:47 UTC  

that's what a private company can do, I will never understand americans

2017-11-25 13:46:27 UTC  

Yeah! Trust us, we're Comcast, you have our word 😉

2017-11-25 13:53:05 UTC  

Comcast is senpai

2017-11-25 13:53:17 UTC  

Comcast : Bend over

2017-11-25 13:54:02 UTC  

I just upgraded to 1gb internet for 70

2017-11-25 13:54:17 UTC  

Its not all bad

2017-11-25 13:56:26 UTC  

There wouldnt be a problem If there were many ISP in a region

2017-11-25 13:57:06 UTC  

I just think is is a massive overreaction

2017-11-25 13:57:25 UTC  

There will be cons and pros

2017-11-25 13:57:39 UTC  

Gotchya, Dan 😉

2017-11-25 13:57:54 UTC  

There are legitimate conserns

2017-11-25 13:58:19 UTC  

But NN was only in place for two years

2017-11-25 14:00:35 UTC  

The ISP acted like there was NN before it was passed in 2015

2017-11-25 14:01:13 UTC  

I havent seen any fracturing before it was made official

2017-11-25 14:09:56 UTC  

that's probably not accurate - what you should say is "we presume ISPs acted like there was NN before 2015", because american ISPs/telecoms were actively engaged in lobbying to _stop_ net neutrality being implemented in europe from 2004 and onwards until it was enacted around 2011

2017-11-25 14:41:57 UTC  

NN is protected here in Europe

2017-11-25 14:42:47 UTC  

The image you have senn about paying differentry forsocial media apps is for mobile data foe wich NN doesnt apply

2017-11-25 15:47:02 UTC  

Good, because nobody uses mobile data for internet access.

2017-11-25 16:20:09 UTC  

Yet

2017-11-25 16:44:23 UTC  

I keep seeing people arguing in favour of NN because "there's only one ISP in my area and-" but noone seems to have asked why there's only one ISP in their area. I might do some digging myself, but off the cuff it really wouldn't surprise me if a government organisation were at least partially responsible for that, be it at state, local, or federal level. For all the internet problems we have in my country, a lack of choice between ISPs is rarely one of them

2017-11-25 16:45:09 UTC  

You need the government's permission to lay wires around the land.

2017-11-25 16:45:15 UTC  

Also, now that the government has *less* influence in the mobile telco department, it's cheaper to ditch your landline phone and just use your mobile phone for local, state and even international calls

2017-11-25 16:45:44 UTC  

Mobile is easier on the infrastucture

2017-11-25 16:46:52 UTC  

The permission to build infrastructure often comes with exclusivity guarantees. As in, you won't have to spend your own money digging up pipes to burrow wires, only to have your competitor use the same pipes for his wires.

2017-11-25 16:46:55 UTC  

I'm also saying the government isn't playing favourites amongst the service providers in the mobile telco marketplace, or at least not to the extent that they are in other areas

2017-11-25 16:47:30 UTC  

That's why usually the duopoly is internet-by-phone-line or internet-by-cable.

2017-11-25 16:47:47 UTC  

Wires should be used like pipes

2017-11-25 16:48:11 UTC  

I still remember when an ISP approached my parents, who managed a townhouse complex in Sydney, with the opportunity to connect NBN cable to their complex

2017-11-25 16:48:13 UTC  

Parents agreed

2017-11-25 16:48:19 UTC  

Lay them down then let them be used by any company who pays for maintanence

2017-11-25 16:48:23 UTC  

Same thing with poles, for plebs using above-ground wiring.

2017-11-25 16:49:06 UTC  

Then NBNco, a government-owned corporation, barged in and basically declared "you can't do that! that's *our* job!"

2017-11-25 16:49:25 UTC  

this must've been around... whew.. 2011? I'd have to ask them next time I see them

2017-11-25 16:49:28 UTC  

But anyway

2017-11-25 16:49:43 UTC  

basically, no NBN for several more years