Message from @nathan

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2018-02-05 04:10:01 UTC  

Women are allowed to give their baby for adoption.

2018-02-05 04:12:26 UTC  

When I say trivial, I mean women should be allowed to abort a baby if it's going to screw over their life. The woman is the one who decides that.

2018-02-05 04:14:02 UTC  

Let's simplify this discussion; I'm making the same points as Crowder, it's easier to see where he went. Then you can decide if you have a better response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCSZYJywQPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUd6Z_zyXZM

2018-02-05 04:15:00 UTC  

If you truly think a 9 month baby isn't worth saving because the mother doesn't want, then, like Crowder, we don't have much to discuss.

2018-02-05 04:15:42 UTC  

Then indeed you need to make the point of what life, if any, deserves protection.

2018-02-05 04:20:07 UTC  

I genuinely doubt I could change your mind, regardless of what sort of reason I use to explain it. You've done a great job explaining your point of view, but it isn't going to change my mind either. Good talk though, you really had me at a loss a few times. πŸ‘

2018-02-05 04:24:51 UTC  

I strongly recommend you to watch those two videos. He's legitimately trying to find a common ground. He's not being sarcastic, dismissive, or anything. The point is, if you can't derive your politics from anything other than tribal instinct of "us vs them", you might be wrong and you don't know it. And by "wrong" I mean contradict a principle you yourself hold true. One of the big divisions between left and right is, one thing the government has the duty to guarantee comfort, the other thinks the government has the duty prevent death.

2018-02-05 04:27:31 UTC  

He didn't make any religious argument by the way.

2018-02-05 04:29:11 UTC  

holy tits thats like an hour and 40 minutes of video

2018-02-05 04:29:26 UTC  

It's various conversations.

2018-02-05 04:29:39 UTC  

You can watch one or two or however many you think it's worth it.

2018-02-05 04:29:58 UTC  

I'll have to watch like half tonight and the rest tomorrow, thanks for sharing the vids with me

2018-02-05 04:30:00 UTC  

Come on, if you watch JBP, that's not bad.

2018-02-05 04:30:21 UTC  

I've seen some of Crowder's stuff and I thought most of it was pretty funny

2018-02-05 04:30:56 UTC  

I thought he was just a clown, but the Change My Mind videos made me actually pay more attention to him.

2018-02-05 04:31:00 UTC  

He's very smart.

2018-02-05 04:32:45 UTC  

Oh, maybe skip the first one, it's 1 hour with one bitch that just keeps going around in circles, talking about her own abortion and just ignoring anything Crowder said. "My pregnancy was traumatic, are you saying I shouldn't have aborted?"

2018-02-05 04:33:37 UTC  

The second one is much better.

2018-02-05 04:48:24 UTC  

Yeah, the lady in the first one clearly doesn't really know what she's doing.

2018-02-05 04:49:21 UTC  

She's talking about it from a personal perspective, which significantly narrows her view.

2018-02-05 04:53:57 UTC  

She seems to treat the issue as though every case is the same as her own.

2018-02-05 21:43:07 UTC  

whats wrong about a white ethnostate?

2018-02-05 21:55:56 UTC  

What's wrong with turning the frickin frogs gay

2018-02-05 22:01:32 UTC  

Liberal non ideological server

no but Liberal

2018-02-05 22:04:45 UTC  

I don't understand what you guys are saying

They put SOY in the Starbucks and all of the men start wearing bikinis

2018-02-06 11:39:51 UTC  

the NHS is powered on the people's will

2018-02-06 11:40:38 UTC  

like, it may well be running on fumes... but it's running at all because everyone who uses it or works for it believes in having a national health service

2018-02-06 11:40:59 UTC  

so I don't see it ever going "bust", just getting butchered by cuts

2018-02-06 11:46:28 UTC  

I get the impression there's always more money to be had for the NHS, it's jut they're being constrained because they're using their funding inappropriately. I've heard things about them expanding middle management, and cutting nurses/therapists, and I've heard things about plans to keep GPs open 7 days a week by outsourcing to private companies who will cost us more in the long term... then there was the whole issue with Spine, intended to stop the NHS from running on paper, but ended up being run by some private company who did the job wrong and cost the NHS billions

2018-02-06 11:47:36 UTC  

I think it's good that they're investing in NHS Digital, and launching Spine 2... I can really see it paying off in the long run (as long as it's done correctly)

2018-02-06 11:48:26 UTC  

but they're huge projects... so the NHS is gonna be strapped for cash in the meantime

I just get pissed off with all these 'kind' people that REEEE abvout the NHS

none of them would ever actually work for it

2018-02-06 12:50:20 UTC  

Privatize the nhs now tbh

there would be riots