the times third parties have sucseeded is when they have a dedicated grass roots

The thing is, this party seems to be tainted

yeah.

skimming through it now

ukip is as about as untained as you can get wile not being part of the establishment

So, unless you are actually far right or want to be labeled as far right

But I belgium they call it far right because it is the most right party we have. But are centrum right wing party is a wolf in sheepskin. They make mean tweets , yell loud but if you see what they did in the last 8 years they done nothing what they said

If it’s like NMR it’s not even worth it

for the most part I think UKIP has avoided being labled fascist

Just join a moderate party

I guess it will be much better

agreed

moderate parties are against free speech

And easier to convince people

Just go for some anti-mig party lmao

mm. If you're young, focus on getting experience and your feet wet first

All moderate parties in Belgium are toxic , socialistic and corrupt as hell

things can change very quickly in politics

And you wouldn't want to go on to have success in the political realm, influencing people to your beliefs, and be on the verge of creating significant change in your country

Only for someone to dredge up something like "X used to be a member of the Y party!"

I say this as a massive poltics nerd, UKIP is in the perfect possition to be hollowed out and made into what ever you wanted it to be

you just need grass roots effort

I am 30 years so not that young. But I am not really afraid of being called far right because everybody who dares to go against EU is called far right

also you don't neceserly need to win to infleunce you just need to be winning enougth to threaten the major parties to force them to change (to re gain your voters)

Yeah, that's not exactly a good thing

As i said, it's a tainted party, other parties ignore this one

If you want to get something done

Join other party

Also depends on your voting system

The far right thing ? I know but how long will this stigma hold back the majority for voting for this party

also the UK might be about to get rid of the house of Lords, which would be replced with a more represetive elected body, this would allow for more populist frinch parties greater ability to win

a labour MP Frank Fields (one of the few non leftists ones) has submited a bill to give us a senate.

@Crypto MJM
The party leader was condemned in 2004 for racism, it won't go away anytime soon

Things are pretty bad in Belgium Highest tax rate in Europe, lowest pension funds

normaly it wouldn't sucseed but with the frustration of brexit and labour being far left, I could see it getting the votes.

I have a strong suspicion that if this party started to gain momentum that they would fracture, due to half their party wanting to 'rehab' the image and the other half wanting to 'stay true' to the pary's founding roots

Pretty sure Jobbik over in Hungary are already doing that

Jobbik is weird though

it's not like a normal populist party

it's allways had wierd race views like pro turk pro islam

it's so anti liberal it's pro islam

@Fulcrum010 I understand what you mean, but I think that was Filip de winter , Now the party has a new front and leader Tom Van Grieken