Quilliam - a Brit that converted to Islam and then railed against British policy in Sudan (that was banning Muslim slave trade)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_Quilliam

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and out of all the things they could've named their foundation, they named it after him.

It's like The Young Turks

yeah, it's so in your face people assume it must be benign

”Quilliam argued that Muslims should not fight Muslims on behalf of European powers.”

Might be Why they named it after him?

https://twitter.com/AmandeepBhogal/status/1106303239530704897

I dunno

is there a hooters for Brexit... now that's something I could really get behind

Brooters

Sounds like Hooters, but with very buff gay men

@MountainMan You don't name your foundation after an extremist when half your staff are all supposed to be ex-extremist Muslims - it's a facade to make Islam look acceptable to the West, then when big enough, they will go back to their old ways.

hey I wouldnt name my group after that. I’m just trying to imagine what they thought.

You cannot be a Muslim without accepting the Sharia

To claim to be a moderate Muslim is either lying to us or not being a Muslim

ok gamer

feelings change, facts do not

i see we have a muslim connoisseur here

”Facts don’t care about your feelings, libtard. <:GWjiangoPepeGenius:398568908971573248> ”

Libtard down

I love that word libtard... PJW was the first person I heard using it and I must have laughed for 5 minutes

libtard destroyed epic style

i believe you are conversing about truth instead of facts

truth is subjective

exactly

your experience of muslims is the truth to you, some muslimis might feel differently and that is the truth to them but both can't be facts

Certain truths are facts
But I get your point

your frame of reference prevents you from deciding what the facts are

if something is written in the Qu'ran... it is a fact that it is in the Qu'ran... whether or not people accept it is a question of their faith

not all christian take the bible 1:1 so it's not inconceivable that some muslims feel the same way about their holy epoch

faith isn't fact

Every Muslim I know is not interested in following the books of the dark ages... very secular in that regard

but do you know every muslim?

@Jabba are protestants real christians?

flip a coin

there are no real Christians

nothing is black & white

@TwinVickers but if the Muslims I refer to went to somewhere like Pakistan, I do not think they would leave alive

The modern paradigm of what we consider religion does not seems to line up with what was considered religion for the past thousands of years.

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