Message from @Xenosural

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2018-09-09 18:33:03 UTC  

sounds good

2018-09-09 21:36:14 UTC  

@MountainMan Christian Dems?

2018-09-09 21:36:27 UTC  

Seems strange to an american

2018-09-09 21:36:40 UTC  

lol

2018-09-09 21:37:20 UTC  

Since Dems in america tend to be anti religion [except islam]

2018-09-09 21:46:38 UTC  

They are common in much of Europe, both east and west.

2018-09-09 21:47:32 UTC  

Merkel's party in Germany is the Christian Democratic Union

2018-09-09 21:48:46 UTC  

just looked her up on wiki "Merkel has been widely described as the de facto leader of the European Union, the most powerful woman in the world, and the leader of the Free World."

2018-09-09 21:48:57 UTC  

Widely described as leader of the free world, eh? Sounds awfully weasely

2018-09-09 21:49:50 UTC  

It's ironic, since she doesn't seem to be a Christian, or in favor of democracy

2018-09-09 21:52:57 UTC  

those parties are usually pretty moderate in their christianity, they espouse some conservative views of how the family is sacred and such, but they're usually not too bible-thumpy

2018-09-09 21:54:59 UTC  

That's nice.

That doesn't excuse or explain Merkle's behavior though.

2018-09-09 21:56:51 UTC  

it should make it seem less odd to you why she's the leader of that type of party

2018-09-09 21:57:20 UTC  

@Mal She was "widely" described as leader of the free world after a *certain day* in November or January a few years ago

2018-09-09 21:57:37 UTC  

Christian Democrats are rather unique to Europe

2018-09-09 21:58:09 UTC  

The Cristian Dems in the netherlands are pretty far to the left, but then again the old commies worker parties are also left, and the full blown commies are left, we do have some small protestant parties with like 5 seats who are more conservative in their views.

2018-09-09 21:58:27 UTC  

yes, they are usually more leftist economically speaking, than conservatives

2018-09-09 21:58:29 UTC  

Quite the opposite, tbh, makes no sense lol

In the US there's a direct correlation to religiosity and smaller government

2018-09-09 21:58:42 UTC  

but their value policies are often conservative

2018-09-09 21:58:52 UTC  

yes, but Europe isn't the US

2018-09-09 21:58:55 UTC  

Last election we had 70 registered parties though, its a pick and choose one party world out there.

2018-09-09 21:59:38 UTC  

Right, which is why I said it confused me at first. Religion usually wants the state to be removed from people's lives....

2018-09-09 21:59:45 UTC  

the political spectrum here is much broader

2018-09-09 21:59:55 UTC  

Well in the US you kinda only have two choices, when was the last time the 3rd running candicate won?

2018-09-09 22:00:19 UTC  

eh, the parties in the US are more like self-identified labels

2018-09-09 22:00:45 UTC  

you'd be surprised how conservative our younger European generations are mate.

2018-09-09 22:05:25 UTC  

I would not call it broader, we can choose between left (Christian Dems) a workers party (more left) and a Freedom party (specificly for rich people and business owners, but still very left) these have dominated in a coalition calling themselves purple, then we have a green party (left) and the one issue parties or people who had fitty fights with the bigegr parties and secceeded mid terme keeping their seats. And people are surprised about people voting Geert Wilders party into power (whitch the coalition stuff can ignore and keep running the show) Then again the Geert Wilders party is also filled with attention whores who run scams, are creeps and frauds. So we have left, some smallish more left stuff those particular protestant party and this right wing lunatic fest.

2018-09-09 22:06:03 UTC  

I mean we gave like 7 seats to the Annimal Party ... so there is that

2018-09-09 22:06:33 UTC  

For some soy and vegan policies with your left agenda

2018-09-09 22:06:42 UTC  

what country is this? Neanderthalands?

2018-09-09 22:06:46 UTC  

Yes

2018-09-09 22:07:03 UTC  

Denmark's better

2018-09-09 22:07:05 UTC  

And thus the problem with a Parliamentary system.

You're voting for a party, not a person

2018-09-09 22:08:11 UTC  

we have not really had any functioning right wing, well ever becasue before ww2 the Queen was the chief, and after well ....

2018-09-09 22:09:00 UTC  

We do vote on people, but ultimately there needs to be a majority (party wise) in the chamber to allow the perty to fill the cabinet seats.

2018-09-09 22:11:53 UTC  

So what you're saying is: The people aren't in charge of determining the cabinet, the parties are.

2018-09-09 22:12:03 UTC  

Indeed

2018-09-09 22:13:44 UTC  

You can vote on a person, but that only counts towards the person in the rank of the party, so if you have a party who gets like 5 seats and everyone votes fro the number 6 that one will get the first seat. But ultimately the vote goes to the party to divy up the seats between them.

2018-09-09 22:14:25 UTC  

Democracy: We'll take your opinions into consideration. Possibly.

2018-09-09 22:15:27 UTC  

A Prime minister once said in an interview: "We do not have a Democracy, we have a Representative Democracy", a distinction many people do not even know exists.

2018-09-09 22:17:39 UTC  

Doesn't sound like it