Message from @Xenosural

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2018-09-09 21:58:27 UTC  

yes, they are usually more leftist economically speaking, than conservatives

2018-09-09 21:58:29 UTC  

Quite the opposite, tbh, makes no sense lol

In the US there's a direct correlation to religiosity and smaller government

2018-09-09 21:58:42 UTC  

but their value policies are often conservative

2018-09-09 21:58:52 UTC  

yes, but Europe isn't the US

2018-09-09 21:58:55 UTC  

Last election we had 70 registered parties though, its a pick and choose one party world out there.

2018-09-09 21:59:38 UTC  

Right, which is why I said it confused me at first. Religion usually wants the state to be removed from people's lives....

2018-09-09 21:59:45 UTC  

the political spectrum here is much broader

2018-09-09 21:59:55 UTC  

Well in the US you kinda only have two choices, when was the last time the 3rd running candicate won?

2018-09-09 22:00:19 UTC  

eh, the parties in the US are more like self-identified labels

2018-09-09 22:00:45 UTC  

you'd be surprised how conservative our younger European generations are mate.

2018-09-09 22:05:25 UTC  

I would not call it broader, we can choose between left (Christian Dems) a workers party (more left) and a Freedom party (specificly for rich people and business owners, but still very left) these have dominated in a coalition calling themselves purple, then we have a green party (left) and the one issue parties or people who had fitty fights with the bigegr parties and secceeded mid terme keeping their seats. And people are surprised about people voting Geert Wilders party into power (whitch the coalition stuff can ignore and keep running the show) Then again the Geert Wilders party is also filled with attention whores who run scams, are creeps and frauds. So we have left, some smallish more left stuff those particular protestant party and this right wing lunatic fest.

2018-09-09 22:06:03 UTC  

I mean we gave like 7 seats to the Annimal Party ... so there is that

2018-09-09 22:06:33 UTC  

For some soy and vegan policies with your left agenda

2018-09-09 22:06:42 UTC  

what country is this? Neanderthalands?

2018-09-09 22:06:46 UTC  

Yes

2018-09-09 22:07:03 UTC  

Denmark's better

2018-09-09 22:07:05 UTC  

And thus the problem with a Parliamentary system.

You're voting for a party, not a person

2018-09-09 22:08:11 UTC  

we have not really had any functioning right wing, well ever becasue before ww2 the Queen was the chief, and after well ....

2018-09-09 22:09:00 UTC  

We do vote on people, but ultimately there needs to be a majority (party wise) in the chamber to allow the perty to fill the cabinet seats.

2018-09-09 22:11:53 UTC  

So what you're saying is: The people aren't in charge of determining the cabinet, the parties are.

2018-09-09 22:12:03 UTC  

Indeed

2018-09-09 22:13:44 UTC  

You can vote on a person, but that only counts towards the person in the rank of the party, so if you have a party who gets like 5 seats and everyone votes fro the number 6 that one will get the first seat. But ultimately the vote goes to the party to divy up the seats between them.

2018-09-09 22:14:25 UTC  

Democracy: We'll take your opinions into consideration. Possibly.

2018-09-09 22:15:27 UTC  

A Prime minister once said in an interview: "We do not have a Democracy, we have a Representative Democracy", a distinction many people do not even know exists.

2018-09-09 22:17:39 UTC  

Doesn't sound like it

2018-09-09 22:20:49 UTC  

Yea tho Merkle has been shown to not follow her party often

2018-09-09 22:22:14 UTC  

@Xenosural majority or a *union*

2018-09-09 22:22:22 UTC  

Which could include a losing party

2018-09-09 22:23:00 UTC  

That does read like how it is, if you disagree with the party you can have some issues. However quite a few people have left their parties in the last few cycles and have remained in their seat, mid term effectively removing a seat from the party.

2018-09-09 22:23:02 UTC  

And the fact you dont vote for pm to me is troubling

2018-09-09 22:23:44 UTC  

The PM usualy is the Lead face of the largest party

2018-09-09 22:23:54 UTC  

Like the uk you vote in parliment but the winner gets to name their own pm from the parliment

2018-09-09 22:24:11 UTC  

I prefer having a primary and vote for the head of state

2018-09-09 22:24:14 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki Technically, the US only does it out of tradition. We don't necessarily require the popular vote

2018-09-09 22:24:46 UTC  

The us doesnt require popular vote no. But our pres isnt reliant on the party wining the congress

2018-09-09 22:24:57 UTC  

We have a seperate vote for pres

2018-09-09 22:25:15 UTC  

Oh, no. But the office could be voted on enitrely by reps with no citizen input

2018-09-09 22:25:51 UTC  

Not technically. With the set up the people of each state vote. The majority win in each state gets the electors

2018-09-09 22:26:05 UTC  

With a couple exceptions who van split their electors

2018-09-09 22:26:38 UTC  

Still has zero congressional input