I’m really not, it’s still boiling up, Iran and Saudi still fund terrorist organisations of their variant of Islam to attack other

Saudi did 9/11

No, I mean they've been killing each other way before 9/11, like a long ass long time.

I’m specifically saying that Saudi Arabia funded 9/11, that’s p much a given

it was a joint venture between the American and the Saudis

America gave money to Bin Ladin to find the soviets, they fight of the soviets and then take the funding to then attack America that’s also pretty well established a long with Saudis funding them as well

Yes and despite opinion. Jet fuel does melt steel beams

The saudis directly funded it.

Doesn’t need to, you really think that an impact from a 100 ton aircraft is going to weaken supports set fire to other material which then will burn the structure down

I was saying that to troll, but yes ofc a 100 story building will lose structural integrity after its hit by a plane

Seriously the melting of the beams is irrelevant im impressed it didn’t fall due to the force of the impact alone

People say jet fuel can’t melt steel beams, but it sure as hell can potentiate cracks and issues that are present because of an impact to those beams

fire doesnt melt stone but cracks it and it will break easily 👽

The structure weakness that would have inflected would have been massive, and jet fuel may not melt beam, but fuck does that stuff burn, it can serious heat metal when metal heats up it comes more compressive and easier to shape

When people point to the way the building fell, as if it was an explosive. There is such a thing as air pressure

But it doesn’t, it looks more like structural failure

All that weight falling down would blow out windows as it came. Along with excess material. It’s a backwards vacuum

9/11 is fishy

Of course it that 3 building in the complex is the fishy one

Like if you push down on a plunger in a toilet. It forces things down right? Similarly to the weight of the buildings as they fell

I actually think there was more to 9/11 then just a plane hitting the building in all honesty. Watch any highrise building fall. Fires are irrelevant, they're designed against fires. The tower should've topled in a irregular way.

It wasn’t attack and still fell that’s the fishy one, and I’ll agree something is very much up with that building collapse

Tower 7 bucko

Why would it fall in an irregular way, madcombat?

Y slowmode?

no clue

Simple, the structural supports below. If you argue on the basis that the force created by the impact of the aircraft is what caused the collapse and not the fire, then surely you could agree that the force impacts the constraints keeping the tower stable. In short, the constraints don't just disapear. They still exist What you should see in the event of a collapse is the affected constraints failing and the partially unaffected constraints maintaining themselves. We actually designed high-rise buildings these ways way before the 9/11 attacks.

That’s the fishy bit, and I’ll completely agree there. But the north and south towers were going to fall, the momentum of aircraft is the cause, the structure was weaken burning jet fuel, will set alight to other materials, their might not be enough to melt the steel but there is enough to get it a point malleable causing the collapse.

Oh cool, 9/11 conspiracies

Mad do you have any literature to support that position? I’d be interested to read it. I agree with starfoxxs post

A type jet Fuel burn to produce a heat of 2500K, standard steel metals at 2500K. But A Type jet fuel burns really violently, it just wasn’t enough. This assuming that steel is normal steel and not an alloy and the fuel in the aircraft was A type.

Not on hand no. I am sure you can do your own research however, you're at a computer. Besides, you never seen a high rise fire before? Theres been much worse incidents of high rise fires. Not only that, if you don't think we design our high rise buildings with planes in mind then all I can say is please don't work in highrise lol. All that weight and force has to go somewhere, constraints don't just get delete. Demolitions explain this too, theres a reason we plant explosives into the constraints of a building, each floor in. It's so that we can produce that collapse into itself effect.

You believe in the explosives theory, then?

Steel doesn't have to melt to deform

No I believe in the physics explained in structural failure explanation

I do not know, what I do know is that basic routines were ignored entirely after these buildings collapsed.

I'm actually surprised they didn't collapse just from the crash

How do you know are demolitions expert, or are you making claims our your ass

@Ondsinet I said the same thing

Shut up goys and get with the programme. In this rare case, the mainstream narrative has no real evidence to deny it

Structural engineering, it works.