Message from @Vice Commander Hunt

Discord ID: 419241553215881216


2018-03-02 20:59:15 UTC  

"Oh, if I can't take advantage of these poor people through interest slavery, what's the point of lending money?"

2018-03-02 20:59:32 UTC  

Unless someone is really close they don't help people for a *couple hundred thousand dollars*, provided they even have that kind of money

2018-03-02 20:59:35 UTC  

No usury, period

2018-03-02 20:59:52 UTC  

>dollars

2018-03-02 21:00:07 UTC  

You get what I mean, don't pick apart what I'm saying on semantics

2018-03-02 21:00:11 UTC  

Large sums like that

2018-03-02 21:00:11 UTC  

a couple hundred thousand Heimbucks

2018-03-02 21:02:29 UTC  

Unironically, anybody that advocates for usury deserves to be shot. We aren't fighting the jews just so we can become them

2018-03-02 21:03:47 UTC  

If you're gonna argue that I should be shot because you're not providing a compelling argument on this I don't get why I'm even talking to you fam

2018-03-02 21:05:09 UTC  

Go purity spiral against about half of the people who agree with you on just about everything because they disagree on something far off in the future they likely wouldn't even be in charge of deciding

2018-03-02 21:05:38 UTC  

🤷 I don't know why you are either. If you want to be a capitalist, why join a fascist group?

2018-03-02 21:06:16 UTC  

But usury is literally the reason we're in this mess at all

2018-03-02 21:06:29 UTC  

Europe sold their souls to the Jew

2018-03-02 21:07:52 UTC  

Europe allowed usury because they needed money to fight jew manufactured wars, so they borrowed money from the jews who were financing both sides

2018-03-02 21:08:41 UTC  

If they didn't allow usury, the jews would be, at most, an inconsequential little desert tribe

2018-03-02 21:09:28 UTC  

But instead, they forced us into the situation we're in today where jews own the world

2018-03-02 21:10:42 UTC  

I don't care if you can make more money in a capitalist system. I don't care if capitalism is better at this or at that. Money isn't the end-all be-all

2018-03-02 21:11:32 UTC  

It's better to be poor and keep your soul

2018-03-02 21:14:40 UTC  

Because I support this group, more or less. This is about the only disagreement I have, and even then I haven't seen a real alternative proposed. You said people should lend (paraphrasing) out of the kindness of their heart. That doesn't seem reasonable for a lot of everyday people, to be honest. Who would lend considerable sums out of the kindness of their hearts to someone starting a risky venture like starting a business, or buying a house? If you propose a state run agency, alright, that could work, don't have that big a deal with it. But just relying on thousands of philanthropists to lend out money to people seems unrealistic to me.

2018-03-02 21:15:21 UTC  

I'm just talking about everyday loans people need dude. I get those arguments on how it fucked up europe, you're not wrong.

2018-03-02 21:16:15 UTC  

Because that is unrealistic, and I have no idea where you would even get that idea

2018-03-02 21:16:44 UTC  

Banks give out loans, right?

2018-03-02 21:16:53 UTC  

"Helping people is something you do because you want to, not because you can profit off people in need"

2018-03-02 21:17:19 UTC  

Private banks won't be a thing

2018-03-02 21:17:20 UTC  

For large loans like that, we ARE proposing a government agency

2018-03-02 21:18:02 UTC  

Yeah - I recall you advocating that Hadrian but Koh wasn't really clear with what he was saying

2018-03-02 21:18:47 UTC  

I wasn't saying anything, mainly because Hadrian already said it

2018-03-02 22:23:32 UTC  

I thought making a profit off of interest is usury, not interest in and of itself.

2018-03-02 22:27:25 UTC  

If I go to the TWP Heimbuck Crypto Emporium, and I want a loan to pay for a house, the ideal situation is only charging me interest to match inflation so the government isn't at a loss.

2018-03-02 22:29:03 UTC  

In this relationship, I (Loanee) get my house, the government (Loaner) has one more citizen off the streets or living in squalor.

2018-03-02 22:31:55 UTC  

Potentially though the argument can be made with the NS Germany example, certain loans can be paid in full after a certain number of children are born, thus being an essentially interest free loan, while also benefiting the state.

2018-03-02 22:32:37 UTC  

Idk I'm a newfag plebeian just spitballing here