Message from @Arcturus

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2018-03-02 20:39:08 UTC  

Thus basically being gibs to shitbirds and hemorrhaging money that could be better used by the state

2018-03-02 20:40:23 UTC  

Perhaps they could have some kind of policy where you can only charge interest after the debtor has missed a few payments or something, I don't know

2018-03-02 20:40:38 UTC  

Capitalism is state enforced usury. Lending money at interest is verboten

2018-03-02 20:41:38 UTC  

profiting off it is forbidden

2018-03-02 20:42:05 UTC  

Okay. Who would go into lending then?

2018-03-02 20:42:27 UTC  

If you cannot make a living off of it why would you lend money to anyone?

2018-03-02 20:42:29 UTC  

Nobody because lending isn't a legitimate business

2018-03-02 20:43:20 UTC  

It's like asking, but if faggotry is illegal, where will Anglin get his Thai ladyboy prostitutes?

2018-03-02 20:43:50 UTC  

from Idnetity Evropa, obviously

2018-03-02 20:44:02 UTC  

O shit, u right @Hadrian

2018-03-02 20:44:15 UTC  

Are they thai, though?

2018-03-02 20:44:17 UTC  

or possibly Atomwaffen

2018-03-02 20:44:21 UTC  

That just seems like an unreasonable position my dude. If lending didn't go on you'd have a hard time purchasing a house or starting a small business, going to college etc

2018-03-02 20:44:28 UTC  

I hear Rape knows something about that area

2018-03-02 20:44:42 UTC  

The government can lend

2018-03-02 20:44:53 UTC  

Why are we talking about real money

2018-03-02 20:45:05 UTC  

Money is a spook

2018-03-02 20:45:11 UTC  

Bureaucrats are shitty at discriminating with who they give money tho

2018-03-02 20:45:12 UTC  

things like small businesses are in the best interests of society, so using tax money for that is fine

2018-03-02 20:45:26 UTC  

obviously we hang the bureaucrats then and get better ones

2018-03-02 20:45:49 UTC  

It fundamentally isn't their money so they're more willing just to give it to whoever

2018-03-02 20:45:59 UTC  

@Arcturus you know we're not talking about doing this stuff in America, right?

2018-03-02 20:46:33 UTC  

Elaborate

2018-03-02 20:46:55 UTC  

I'm not sure why you think that the "ethnostate" will be America, but with minor policy changes

2018-03-02 20:47:04 UTC  

I'm aware this is a theoretical discussion about after we get our ideal form of government, it would still geographically be in America tho

2018-03-02 20:47:15 UTC  

*in* America, sure

2018-03-02 20:47:16 UTC  

Yeah, no shit

2018-03-02 20:47:24 UTC  

But it won't be America

2018-03-02 20:47:31 UTC  

but the political and economic system will have little resemblance

2018-03-02 20:47:31 UTC  

The state

2018-03-02 20:47:41 UTC  

I'm aware

2018-03-02 20:47:44 UTC  

the way things are done now just won't apply

2018-03-02 20:51:23 UTC  

You're talking like money will be the same, taxes will be the same, etc. Like everything will be the same, just with us in charge

2018-03-02 20:51:39 UTC  

I understand there won't be just minor changes, don't straw man me claiming that's what I think this will be my dude. I'm just saying this is a useful system that shouldn't entirely be done away with. We don't have to do literally everything opposite as to how it's done now for the sake of it being opposite. There can be a discussion as to what %'s are ethical, sure, but I don't think you can entirely do away with interest without having pretty broad ramifications on society

2018-03-02 20:54:19 UTC  

>that shouldn't be entirely done away with
Wrong

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396504026210107393/419236033310228480/442.png

2018-03-02 20:54:36 UTC  

the thing is, we *want* pretty broad ramifications on society

2018-03-02 20:55:20 UTC  

You want an example of government loans in Germany?

2018-03-02 20:56:19 UTC  

The government would give couples x amount of money and subtract a percent they would have to pay back for each child they gave birth to

2018-03-02 20:56:39 UTC  

Yeah yeah, you get what I mean though lmao. By ramifications I was meaning that you just wouldn't have small business loans or mortgage loans in that system *if lenders were private* which would be pretty disastrous

2018-03-02 20:56:53 UTC  

I'm aware of that, I'm not opposed to that

2018-03-02 20:57:23 UTC  

I'd granted earlier you could have a loaning agency that could work, I was talking within the framework of if lending is private 0 interest wouldn't work