Message from @Arcturus

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2018-03-02 20:45:49 UTC  

It fundamentally isn't their money so they're more willing just to give it to whoever

2018-03-02 20:45:59 UTC  

@Arcturus you know we're not talking about doing this stuff in America, right?

2018-03-02 20:46:33 UTC  

Elaborate

2018-03-02 20:46:55 UTC  

I'm not sure why you think that the "ethnostate" will be America, but with minor policy changes

2018-03-02 20:47:04 UTC  

I'm aware this is a theoretical discussion about after we get our ideal form of government, it would still geographically be in America tho

2018-03-02 20:47:15 UTC  

*in* America, sure

2018-03-02 20:47:16 UTC  

Yeah, no shit

2018-03-02 20:47:24 UTC  

But it won't be America

2018-03-02 20:47:31 UTC  

but the political and economic system will have little resemblance

2018-03-02 20:47:31 UTC  

The state

2018-03-02 20:47:41 UTC  

I'm aware

2018-03-02 20:47:44 UTC  

the way things are done now just won't apply

2018-03-02 20:51:23 UTC  

You're talking like money will be the same, taxes will be the same, etc. Like everything will be the same, just with us in charge

2018-03-02 20:51:39 UTC  

I understand there won't be just minor changes, don't straw man me claiming that's what I think this will be my dude. I'm just saying this is a useful system that shouldn't entirely be done away with. We don't have to do literally everything opposite as to how it's done now for the sake of it being opposite. There can be a discussion as to what %'s are ethical, sure, but I don't think you can entirely do away with interest without having pretty broad ramifications on society

2018-03-02 20:54:19 UTC  

>that shouldn't be entirely done away with
Wrong

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396504026210107393/419236033310228480/442.png

2018-03-02 20:54:36 UTC  

the thing is, we *want* pretty broad ramifications on society

2018-03-02 20:55:20 UTC  

You want an example of government loans in Germany?

2018-03-02 20:56:19 UTC  

The government would give couples x amount of money and subtract a percent they would have to pay back for each child they gave birth to

2018-03-02 20:56:39 UTC  

Yeah yeah, you get what I mean though lmao. By ramifications I was meaning that you just wouldn't have small business loans or mortgage loans in that system *if lenders were private* which would be pretty disastrous

2018-03-02 20:56:53 UTC  

I'm aware of that, I'm not opposed to that

2018-03-02 20:57:23 UTC  

I'd granted earlier you could have a loaning agency that could work, I was talking within the framework of if lending is private 0 interest wouldn't work

2018-03-02 20:57:55 UTC  

But you're saying that if people don't make money off it, they won't want to loan money for a living

2018-03-02 20:57:57 UTC  

Good

2018-03-02 20:58:04 UTC  

That's not a fucking job

2018-03-02 20:58:39 UTC  

Helping people is something you do because you want to, not because you can profit off people in need

2018-03-02 20:59:15 UTC  

"Oh, if I can't take advantage of these poor people through interest slavery, what's the point of lending money?"

2018-03-02 20:59:32 UTC  

Unless someone is really close they don't help people for a *couple hundred thousand dollars*, provided they even have that kind of money

2018-03-02 20:59:35 UTC  

No usury, period

2018-03-02 20:59:52 UTC  

>dollars

2018-03-02 21:00:07 UTC  

You get what I mean, don't pick apart what I'm saying on semantics

2018-03-02 21:00:11 UTC  

Large sums like that

2018-03-02 21:00:11 UTC  

a couple hundred thousand Heimbucks

2018-03-02 21:02:29 UTC  

Unironically, anybody that advocates for usury deserves to be shot. We aren't fighting the jews just so we can become them

2018-03-02 21:03:47 UTC  

If you're gonna argue that I should be shot because you're not providing a compelling argument on this I don't get why I'm even talking to you fam

2018-03-02 21:05:09 UTC  

Go purity spiral against about half of the people who agree with you on just about everything because they disagree on something far off in the future they likely wouldn't even be in charge of deciding

2018-03-02 21:05:38 UTC  

🤷 I don't know why you are either. If you want to be a capitalist, why join a fascist group?

2018-03-02 21:06:16 UTC  

But usury is literally the reason we're in this mess at all

2018-03-02 21:06:29 UTC  

Europe sold their souls to the Jew

2018-03-02 21:07:52 UTC  

Europe allowed usury because they needed money to fight jew manufactured wars, so they borrowed money from the jews who were financing both sides

2018-03-02 21:08:41 UTC  

If they didn't allow usury, the jews would be, at most, an inconsequential little desert tribe

2018-03-02 21:09:28 UTC  

But instead, they forced us into the situation we're in today where jews own the world