Message from @Matt ✠

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2017-06-12 00:17:24 UTC  

Many of the infographics I've linked to are also from the site.

2017-06-12 00:18:00 UTC  

The Universal Truth etc

2017-06-12 00:18:10 UTC  

Surprised I never found that site. Always good to find more info/perspectives.

2017-06-12 00:18:36 UTC  

Oh yeah, this is perfect one for @Tedium http://i.imgur.com/DarKLlI.jpg

2017-06-12 00:18:46 UTC  

This is like IM sister site for articles.

2017-06-12 00:21:10 UTC  

Yeah, I saw that before. I always liked Rockwell's explanation of NS

2017-06-12 00:22:01 UTC  

NS is the religion of the natural laws and nature itself in all its immutable fascism; hierarchy.

2017-06-12 00:22:02 UTC  

Can you in a meaningful sense separate American national socialism from fascism?

2017-06-12 00:22:24 UTC  

Historically or contemporarily

2017-06-12 00:22:34 UTC  

Fascism is the prototype. NS is the final model, the ideal.

2017-06-12 00:22:59 UTC  

I think you did @Kombat-Unit when you said fascists were NS who hadn't read Mein Kampf.

2017-06-12 00:23:51 UTC  

Fascism literally just arrived first, Hitler liked it. Then he totally expanded on it to a greater vision than Mussolini ever had, or rather, he had the needed aspects and will to enact it.

2017-06-12 00:24:57 UTC  

My point was, what's the point of going out of your way to make the distinction when you refer to the exact same thing.

2017-06-12 00:25:11 UTC  

The pupil rather, shit.

2017-06-12 00:25:15 UTC  

Mussolini even realized this, and altered HIS views. The mentor became the master.

2017-06-12 00:25:18 UTC  

Too many nuggies.

2017-06-12 00:27:03 UTC  

Fascism is just the italian expression of universal truth with its italian racial flavor, national socialism is the same thing. But national socialism is the closest application of universal truth and natural law ever codified. That's why I'm a nazi.

2017-06-12 00:27:17 UTC  

Yee, basically.

2017-06-12 00:28:02 UTC  

Lol Christopher Cantwell just made this video in defense of (((capitalism))).

2017-06-12 00:28:13 UTC  

I had to lay down the law.

2017-06-12 00:28:36 UTC  

Italian fascism looked back to Ancient Rome, as did the original USA (fascist iconography everywhere in DC!). That may matter to some.

2017-06-12 00:28:58 UTC  

We went so astray from any idea of the Founders.

2017-06-12 00:29:16 UTC  

Once usury and finance power won, without a leader like Jackson, shiieett.

2017-06-12 00:29:52 UTC  

To be sure. It's still something to bring up, makes things hella awkward for the "muh Constitution" conservatives

2017-06-12 00:29:53 UTC  

Iconography doesn't really change the ideology, naturally we have different iconography as well.

2017-06-12 00:32:28 UTC  

I guess you could broadly define fascism as non-nazi application of the universal truth, but unless there's a national component to it, makes it kinda weird why the difference would really matter. Like, if a Slovak for example identified as a fascist because he really identified with Tiso instead of Hitler, fair enough, I guess, but otherwise, y tho dude

2017-06-12 00:34:49 UTC  

but yeah tl;dr same thing

2017-06-12 00:37:16 UTC  

Well

2017-06-12 00:37:20 UTC  

Kind of

2017-06-12 00:37:37 UTC  

Fascism often lacks on the racial questions

2017-06-12 00:37:39 UTC  

Interestingly though, in Slovakia's case, the guy who just made into parlament used to larp wartime fascist, then went full 1488 and got elected

2017-06-12 00:37:43 UTC  

so " fascists were NS who hadn't read Mein Kampf." is true here I guess

2017-06-12 00:37:52 UTC  

Where has fascism lacked racial question?

2017-06-12 00:38:02 UTC  

Mussolini

2017-06-12 00:38:14 UTC  

Already in 1919 Mussolini said that Italy is unified by one racial spirit and struggle to maintain it.

2017-06-12 00:38:16 UTC  

sec

2017-06-12 00:38:39 UTC  

I've heard that from an Italian Fascist as well, though I question the extent to which that is accurate

2017-06-12 00:38:42 UTC  

He didn't act on the JQ until Hitler pressured him

2017-06-12 00:38:50 UTC  

-Speech in Trieste, September 20, 1920

“I have an unbounded faith in the future greatness of the Italian people. Ours is, among the European peoples, the largest and most homogeneous. … Unlike the pessimists who believe that everything is great in other people’s houses, while everything is too small in their own, we have pride in our race and our history.”

2017-06-12 00:38:52 UTC  

From my understanding

2017-06-12 00:38:55 UTC  

Bullshit tho.