Message from Murenu in tradworker #tradworker


2017-01-29 02:24:40 UTC  

It's real and has merit but it debatably doesn't matter

2017-01-29 02:24:43 UTC  

@parrott Citizens For Trump = Literal Hitler

2017-01-29 02:24:49 UTC  

let me finish ffs

2017-01-29 02:24:52 UTC  

I am lol

2017-01-29 02:24:57 UTC  

it's text you can't be talked over

2017-01-29 02:25:04 UTC  

fuck u

2017-01-29 02:25:06 UTC  

anyway

2017-01-29 02:25:15 UTC  

the original overton window is bullshit

2017-01-29 02:25:24 UTC  

it's not about pushing boundaries in political discourse

2017-01-29 02:25:34 UTC  

it's simply a matter of what you can get away with (without being ostracised, beaten up or jailed)

2017-01-29 02:25:50 UTC  

and as it stands, you can't get away with any sort of racism or nazism in the USA

2017-01-29 02:25:57 UTC  

so no, the window hasn't moved

2017-01-29 02:27:30 UTC  

Are we allowed to chat yet?

2017-01-29 02:27:35 UTC  

It's impossible to give a worldwide standard for changing political discourse. Overton window is bullshit. It's a zero sum game, either you get away with it or you don't, there isn't, shouldn't and can't be a standard for it, if you're smart, you recognize it.

2017-01-29 02:28:39 UTC  

For example, MP can survive hanging out with us, while posting even friatider will get you fired in Sweden: http://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finns_party_mp_poses_with_national_socialists_at_memorial/8084384

2017-01-29 02:28:51 UTC  

To state that the window of acceptable discourse in public hasn't changed in the past couple years is absurd.

I've literally got multiple high school classmates liking my fashy social media posts and lamenting the refugee crisis, black crime, and Jewish bankers.

2017-01-29 02:29:04 UTC  

But then again, you couldn't directly link to our stuff. You have to maintain this air of plausable deniability

2017-01-29 02:29:45 UTC  

overton window states that public discourse changes when people start discussing increasingly extreme subjects

2017-01-29 02:30:01 UTC  

what happened in the US is simply a change of circumstances and issues perceived by the people

2017-01-29 02:30:17 UTC  

it didn't happen by gradually hammering anti-immigration talks on their ears

2017-01-29 02:30:23 UTC  

I was just defining it broadly by what is socially acceptable to talk about at least without being blanket-banned from the media/most people

2017-01-29 02:30:40 UTC  

maybe normies are a good frame of reference to use

2017-01-29 02:31:12 UTC  

well, yeah

2017-01-29 02:31:20 UTC  

You're defining it more specifically, I'm not

2017-01-29 02:31:21 UTC  

"ban the muslims," "end the fed," "America First," "nationalism against globalism,"... This shit wasn't allowed in public spaces a few years back.

2017-01-29 02:31:21 UTC  

but again what we've talked earlier makes more sense

2017-01-29 02:31:44 UTC  

I remember this case a True Finn representative from Vaasa was hanging out in this one skin joint, and leftist got butthurt, but he didn't get in trouble. But then another representative got a warning for posting ethnic hatefacts on FB.

2017-01-29 02:31:44 UTC  

people go with what is trending and with the stronger horse

2017-01-29 02:31:53 UTC  

What gets you in trouble and what doesn't is really ambiguous

2017-01-29 02:32:02 UTC  

From time to time.

2017-01-29 02:32:41 UTC  

Plausable deniability, that's how Plowshares into Swords can work with Actual Important People while being a raging closet nazi.

2017-01-29 02:33:38 UTC  

Hahah, oh yeah, and one union representative here is 3/4 open nazi, but what can they do, fire him, union representative?

2017-01-29 02:33:42 UTC  

Reds checkmate'd

2017-01-29 02:34:16 UTC  

Posts our stuff and wears stuff with iron crosses and swastikas but falls short of saying Hitler was right on his open FB.

2017-01-29 02:45:39 UTC  

Having people all along the way is well and good. Just as long as they're not signaling against the men to their right.

2017-01-29 02:45:59 UTC  

Especially if they're public men. We're all stocked up on bloggers and shit playing the entry level game.

2017-01-29 02:47:37 UTC  

Of course, we will never pander to anyone to the left of us, but if normies, especially those with reach wanna promote us, hell, it's all good.

2017-01-29 02:48:04 UTC  

Yup.

2017-01-29 02:51:37 UTC  

For example, you cannot and shouldn't purity test thousands of people marching, even if all of them are not nazis, it doesn't matter if they all conform to nazi leadership. Sure the march had a few low info guys like "hrh moozlems worship the moon" or something, but as long as they don't lead shit, who cares.

2017-01-29 02:53:30 UTC  

☝🏻 🗡 ☪

2017-01-29 02:53:45 UTC  

Vice versa, if a bunch of nazis are led by TRS-tiers they'll never utilize a fraction of their potential.