"BUT MUH ROADS! TAX ME DADDY!"

and they dont get as shitty weather as most of the other states

Because the govt needs more money, obviously!

gale, literally, that's the response

and im not talking about the literal communist

dude dont hate on Moonbeam...

Here is the thing. Roads are cheap as fuck. ASPHALT IS THE MOST RECYCLED MATERIAL ON THE PLANET, MORESO THAN WATER.

im talking about the otherwise reasonable people i get along with

So you're going to a shitty lawschool?

@Fitzydog @Black Mage the federal government should literally take everything from californians

It's actually a top 50

"I am governor Jerry Brown. My aura smiles and never frowns. Soon I will be PRE-SIDE-DENT"

for what it's worth

Which isn't much

@galesteppes Repossession?

I have a published article there - guess what I did? I made it sound anti-Trump

@Fitzydog make all of california federal land and sell that shit to people who will actually make use of it

like, it sounded as if I was criticizing Trump legally, but I actually gave an objective review of the law by using him as an example case study

You are barking up the wrong tree, it sounds to me like. Are you young?

Me? 25

Man. If you just tell your lefty friends factoids in a non partisan way, walking them through it they almost always realise how obvious it is.

Listen to more Tom Woods @Black Mage

I've tried a bunch of different methods

I don't even know who that is

Exactly

Youll get a bit of push back but then they tend to end at "oh, yea your right"

@Banks=Gay you can't with californians

they are literal npcs

Okay so the 16 and 17 year olds are not buying ANY of this Marxist bullshit, they do not like the media. That is the group we are hoping will back us up.

ME^

Tom Dilorenzo if you wanna be black pilled about Abraham Lincoln

Soy, I've tried facts and citations and "well let's take that to its logical conclusion, what happens then" etc

^

Those are the lost causes, move on

if you just hit them with enough facts they just end up shutting the fuck up or admitting they're wrong. And you win. That' how I like red pilling my friends.

the NYT is a reputable source but the DHS isnt

Do not try and persuade everyone, pick ones that can be persuaded

DHS?

people don't like to be persuaded

Citations tend to just bore people. You kinda need to make points using relevant example and simple logic.

Also true