Yes, that's the welfare cliff

And this culture we have promotes pleasure and the individual needs above collective good. When we implement cultural changes to promote community and family, people won't want to be parasites

But it's false to compare this to national socialism

It creates a perverse incentive to not work longer hours & avoid pay raises

If we eliminate welfare, people won't have the possibility to be parasites

Either be productive or starve. If you are a legitimate victim, then private charity can fill in. It's not moral if I'm forced to give money at the point of a gun

In a high trust society like we want, we can have nice things like welfare and universal health care

You don't need universal healthcare to have healthcare

Along the lines of what Hadrian is saying. You're focusing on the socialism under our current low trust broken system, while ignoring the results of socialism under a high trust nationalistic system

Everything government currently provides was once provided by private individuals

Or not provided in any form

I agree that any system is going to work better with whites

And people lived for 35 miserable years

It's not just about being under whites

Libya worked wonderfully

Before (((They))) killed Ghaddafi

Hadrian, because we had a much poorer understanding of modern medicine, not because a lack of government. Everyone died young

What motivated people to improve healhcare. Because it was not primarily profit

It was out of a sense of common good and duty to ones people

Not just medicine. Local crop failures led to mass starvation, among other things

Or profit

Anyways the wife is glaring at me. I gotta put my kid to bed. Feel free to keep it going. Discussion is good

Because if you offer a magic pill that increases your lifespan 50 years, do you think people would be willing to pay you for that?

Goodnight bro, and thank you for doing your part at repopulating our race

We'll never measure up to those chad IE guys man. Getting shouted down by a bunch of fat pink hairs at gainesville

That was peak optics right there

My ideal society is a 100% white ethnostate with maximum freedom. If people want to form a socialist commune within the country, they should be able to, but the libertarian town shouldn't be forced to pay for it

Don't you want to help your fellow people?

Yes, and I do, through charity

Taxation and welfare is theft and violence, not charity

It's not moral if I have a gun held to my head

You realize this is a discord chanel for TWP, a national SOCIALIST org right?

Not trying to shit on you man but cmon

And you shouldn't be allowed to accumulate wealth through unrestrained greed while your fellow white people are poor through no fault of their own

Jones agrees that debate is good. If mods don't want opposing viewpoints then I'll stop bringing it up.

How is it greed to want to keep the money I earned, but it's not greed to want to take it from me?

It's not that you earn money, it's how you do so

In capitalism, it's by providing services people are willing to pay me for

If you're treating people fairly, that's fine

None of us want to take your home, food etc. We encourage business

I'd like to reiterate I'm 100% on board with nationalism. And I'd rather live in a socialist all white country than a capitalist multi ethnic society.