Message from @Boniface

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2019-12-10 21:04:49 UTC  

BASED

2019-12-10 21:05:36 UTC  

Sure it does. The whole point from the start isn't the benefits or detriments of pr0ns. I honestly dont care which way that ends up. my point is WHY do we pick and choose what the government decides what is detrimental to society.

2019-12-10 21:05:58 UTC  

you're telling me that on one hand, people should decide what is allowed based on what they think is a benefit, yet on the other hand even if they think its a benefit it still shouldn't be allowed

2019-12-10 21:06:30 UTC  

You still refuse to define "people"

2019-12-10 21:06:49 UTC  

well, you used the term first

2019-12-10 21:06:58 UTC  

you seem unhappy with individuals deciding for themselves

2019-12-10 21:06:58 UTC  

Are you talking about small groups of individuals or society as a large chunk?

2019-12-10 21:07:29 UTC  

Only insofar as that decisions can affect other people.

2019-12-10 21:07:50 UTC  

No decision is truly individual. We are just led to THINK that

2019-12-10 21:08:02 UTC  

so we can avoid blame for our actions

2019-12-10 21:08:20 UTC  

ok, if 51% of the population decided to buy gold tomorrow, the price of gold would go up, having an effect on the other 49% so that's not allowed?/

2019-12-10 21:09:28 UTC  

Ah! In many countries, what you just said, IS BANNED

2019-12-10 21:09:42 UTC  

Try that in India

2019-12-10 21:09:42 UTC  

buying gold?

2019-12-10 21:09:45 UTC  

yes

2019-12-10 21:10:10 UTC  

once again, not saying its right or wrong, but that gets determined at a gov level

2019-12-10 21:10:25 UTC  

Consider yourself lucky you are allowed to in the west. most of it anyway

2019-12-10 21:10:26 UTC  

sure but that's not the people

2019-12-10 21:11:33 UTC  

well, not ALL people. Some. The question is, does the Gov represent the people? When does it represent them and not?

2019-12-10 21:11:36 UTC  

I mean you started using the term people when you said people should decide what is a benefit

2019-12-10 21:12:01 UTC  

to me people means individual humans

2019-12-10 21:12:05 UTC  

OK, lets define the term so we can quit being nebulous about it.

2019-12-10 21:12:32 UTC  

To me "people" is the will of the largest homogeneous block

2019-12-10 21:12:53 UTC  

or at least A homogeneous block.

2019-12-10 21:13:10 UTC  

Individuals are honestly quite useless on their own.

2019-12-10 21:13:50 UTC  

I don't really have an image in my head of what the largest homogenous block looks like exactly

2019-12-10 21:14:02 UTC  

In any "nation" really.

2019-12-10 21:14:02 UTC  

do you mean like, a block of people with the same opinion?

2019-12-10 21:14:05 UTC  

or same ethnicity?

2019-12-10 21:14:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634415983741763594/654068428180815942/1571324152569.jpg

2019-12-10 21:14:27 UTC  

I mean block of people with the same culture/heritage. So yeah, more than likely ethnicity

2019-12-10 21:14:47 UTC  

^ There's the people deciding

2019-12-10 21:14:50 UTC  

Bingo

2019-12-10 21:14:56 UTC  

the 'individual"

2019-12-10 21:14:59 UTC  

what if they don't have the same will?

2019-12-10 21:15:05 UTC  

who bears no loyalty to "the people"

2019-12-10 21:15:11 UTC  

how do you determine the will of this "people"

2019-12-10 21:15:29 UTC  

They can have a differing will. Thats normal. Then they will democratically decide

2019-12-10 21:15:41 UTC  

preferably.

2019-12-10 21:15:43 UTC  

so if we take the US for example

2019-12-10 21:15:54 UTC  

The US can NEVER have democracy.