Message from @Downfall Vision

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2019-10-18 09:30:06 UTC  

It's amazing how they tell us, in the 80s, that global warning is a crisis, and even that we'd all be dead, or flooded by 2012, then decades later, nothing happens.

2019-10-18 09:30:22 UTC  

look, I don't care about a consensus then or now

2019-10-18 09:30:24 UTC  

HE DOES

2019-10-18 09:30:25 UTC  

There is scientific consensus that you're all gay and I'm not

2019-10-18 09:30:26 UTC  

Than they do it again...

2019-10-18 09:30:31 UTC  

I'm telling you he has no grounds to make such statements

2019-10-18 09:30:38 UTC  

I don't care

2019-10-18 09:30:47 UTC  

then why argue

2019-10-18 09:30:47 UTC  

That's not central to the argument

2019-10-18 09:30:50 UTC  

IT IS

2019-10-18 09:30:52 UTC  

omg

2019-10-18 09:31:01 UTC  

thats his entire argument

2019-10-18 09:31:08 UTC  

You want to quibble on propaganda and official edicts

2019-10-18 09:31:11 UTC  

Nope

2019-10-18 09:31:13 UTC  

@Weaboo Kempeitai well to say "nothing" has happened isn't true but obviously they exaggerated the potential effects

2019-10-18 09:31:23 UTC  
2019-10-18 09:31:25 UTC  

timestamp

2019-10-18 09:31:28 UTC  

Imagine discrediting research because most scientists came to different conclusions, regardless of its methodology.

2019-10-18 09:31:38 UTC  

now what?

2019-10-18 09:31:39 UTC  

the fact is that climate science is used by alarmists who exaggerate everything

2019-10-18 09:31:41 UTC  

His argument is centrally that the Earth has been much warmer in the past, before Humans existed in such numbers with their industry

2019-10-18 09:31:48 UTC  

@Weaboo Kempeitai imagine living in a society

2019-10-18 09:32:27 UTC  

There is change happening though
Environmental change in the Arctic and sub-arctic
Melting permafrost and glaciers fucking stuff up

2019-10-18 09:32:27 UTC  

Thus we can't attribute global warming necessarily to humans on the one hand, and on the other, we are in a much cooler period now than in that previous pre-mass-human-effect times

2019-10-18 09:32:27 UTC  

keep believing your propaganda if you want

2019-10-18 09:32:33 UTC  

even if they explicitly lie to you

2019-10-18 09:32:33 UTC  

That's the central argument dude

2019-10-18 09:32:43 UTC  

Do you deny those facts?

2019-10-18 09:33:09 UTC  

I dont think anyone disputes that the earth at one point in time was hotter than now

2019-10-18 09:33:19 UTC  

the argument is the hockey stick curve

2019-10-18 09:33:27 UTC  

meaning it has rapidly increased in a hundred years

2019-10-18 09:34:07 UTC  

And the correlation between Co2 and warming broken down in the late 90s, he claims

2019-10-18 09:34:23 UTC  

Again pointing to a flaw in the global warming thesis

2019-10-18 09:34:41 UTC  

Should have continued to raise if it was in some tight relationship

2019-10-18 09:34:53 UTC  

the correlation exists but doesnt mean anything, i thought

2019-10-18 09:35:06 UTC  

CO2 kept rising but temps didn't

2019-10-18 09:35:13 UTC  

Since the late 90s he said

2019-10-18 09:35:14 UTC  

whats your sources

2019-10-18 09:35:17 UTC  

At least for the most part

2019-10-18 09:35:20 UTC  

They aren't mine