even if tyou started with a perfect population

you need extreme laws to not degenerate

there is less drug use under prohibition than without it

every time

humans will be humans.

>nothing worked

also, not all prohibitions are similar cases

>didn't try abolishing welfare

ok

let's "try it"

oh, we can't?

@Banjod How are property rights not enough? It's literally a net loss to keep addicts around.

no we can't

too many parasites

so it' not a solution

you desperately want it to work out that prohibition does EVERYTHING worse, that there will be MORE people on drugs under prohibition

its clownish

stop paying taxes

it's your duty

Again, read The Economics of Prohibition.

it' not enough because things are not static

have you read locke?

no, I don't think I will

have yo?

its nonsensical, and has never been the case in any prohibition that I know of

Why not? It's probably better researched than any argument I'll ever make. And discord isn't the place for debates, anyway.

I have no need to

@Nerthulas You've never read it, how can you say it's nonsensical?

I know alcohol use was reduced under prohibition

I'm not saying it is

I'm saying you are

Read the book.

if the claim that you're making is actually one of the theses of the book, then the book is nonsensical and not empirically based as well

In my country, there are what we call 'safe injection sites' being opened in many metropolitan zones, which are effectively government funded opium dens

but I doubt that is one of their claims

have you read the book?

me rn

we already tried not having a welfare system

you know what happened?