Explain an unprovable truth
It seems universalistic to me

You can look up Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, Godel sentence, Tarski's undefinability theorem, and Turing and Church's work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems#Truth_of_the_G%C3%B6del_sentence

Hmm
Thanks

basically you can create statements so complex they cant be proven true or false, ever

but they can nevertheless definitely be true or false

the thing is,
it is within the real of possibility that there is a creator god, who "started the machine" essentially flicked a switch and lit the big bang, let the universe unroll etc..
That still doesn't mean that the christian god is the one who did it..
Cthulhu is as probably as yahweh

Right

and if god exists and created the universe, then evolution could be his mechanism for creation

i dont see a necessary contradiction

These concepts are all closely related, Russell's set paradox, Richard's paradox, liar's paradox.

if you can have logical paradoxes, you can have unprovably true statements.

It's also mathematically equivalent to the halting problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem)

The halting problem means, if you have the code for a program, can you guarantee if it will finish in finite time or run forever

And Turing proved its not possible.

These problems are beautiful because theyre all the same problem seen a different way

a logical symmetry if you will

ConvertEveryoneToIslam.exe

that programwill finish in finite time

with the death of the human race

Infidel

Convert2Islam(*this)

The thing with arguing the existence of god is that god doesn’t physically exist on the material plane.
It’s basically trying to use empirical means to prove the ephemeral

right just debating gods existence is pointless

Or let me rephrase, he doesn’t exist in material plane, so using material means to prove god’s existence is useless

Right

It’s so 2007 lol

Imagine still debating atheism vs theism in 2019

you can debate, is there any evidence of god's actions that show we can't exclude the hypothesis of god's existence

JF nailed it on universality, these logic-cucks dont even understand logic

The Eternal Boomer

My degrees are all in Math, and i view these religious philosophers as brainlets in a place they dont belong

"ooooh you know the excluded middle"

Logos

do you know that's one part of de-morgan's laws

do you know there's other formulations of logic such as three value church logic?

they know nothing

Do you think logic can be used to try to prove god’s existence?

pure logic by itself? no. could we use logic to evaluate evidence and reason that it's highly consistent with god's existence, absolutely.

Interesting