Message from @JFGariepy

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2019-10-30 20:19:02 UTC  

Denying race realism is like worse than believing in anti-vax and flat earth combined.

2019-10-30 20:19:18 UTC  

guess where he's from

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/639196654586560525/nord.png

2019-10-30 20:19:19 UTC  

I bet you can't

2019-10-30 20:19:24 UTC  

These quotes address the claim that natural selection in our prehistory created differential selection pressures that caused the intelligence differences we see in races today.

2019-10-30 20:19:25 UTC  

uganda

2019-10-30 20:19:29 UTC  

Norway

2019-10-30 20:19:32 UTC  

Clearly an african

2019-10-30 20:19:36 UTC  

argentina?

2019-10-30 20:19:38 UTC  

you can't know, race isn't real

2019-10-30 20:19:40 UTC  

South Africa

2019-10-30 20:19:48 UTC  

@Banjod you ofc

2019-10-30 20:19:49 UTC  

China

2019-10-30 20:20:55 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/639197063397244979/one_race.PNG

2019-10-30 20:21:13 UTC  

And Jenson and Rushton were both liberals. If you can't convince you, no one can.

2019-10-30 20:21:41 UTC  

these two are exactly the same and we would expect the same cognitive abelites

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/639197255542243338/2D9jMPB.png

2019-10-30 20:21:41 UTC  

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27252307 I love how they Imply that SA isn't actually their home, when they've lived there for generations, and cultivated their own culture and way of life, unique from their European ancestors.

2019-10-30 20:22:32 UTC  

i think it's good that they do come home

2019-10-30 20:22:40 UTC  

fuck africa

2019-10-30 20:23:08 UTC  

It's race denialism bullshit. Among other things, it relies on the conception that cognitive effects of evolution must have happened before migration rather than after, for which there is no evidence at all other than some supposition made by the author. Furthermore, it denies the differences existing between groups of people that find themselves in different conditions (i.e. perhaps cooperation is good in a winter if you live on average 1 km away from anyone, but not at the equator if you live with 40 people around you all the time who may have increased violent tendencies). It then commits the error of thinking that genetic diversity as measured on a per-letter-of-DNA basis is a good quantification to affirm or deny the presence of distinct evolutionary pressures applying to different groups. It doesn't. We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups. Finally, it strawmans the race realist position by stating that races are "genetically homogeneous groups," which is not the position and which should always raise a red flag in the reader, since setting such an impossible standard is clearly evidence that the author wanted to reach the conclusion that races don't exist.

2019-10-30 20:23:38 UTC  

@BabygottBach I am willing to give you a serious discussion in the <#634548436280016906> channel. If you came here knowing we are race realists, you can here to provoke meaningless without a serious discussion.

2019-10-30 20:23:47 UTC  

One race the human race

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/639197785899663371/1-1.jpg

2019-10-30 20:24:39 UTC  

Hail JF!

2019-10-30 20:24:58 UTC  

I think you're strawmanning the quote, @JFGariepy

2019-10-30 20:25:09 UTC  

that's because you think everything is a strawman

2019-10-30 20:25:31 UTC  

Then, @Banjod, explain to me how he could infer any of what he just said from the quotes I posted.

2019-10-30 20:25:33 UTC  

@BabygottBach I am welling to give you a serious debate in <#634548436280016906> .

2019-10-30 20:25:47 UTC  

_any_ of it

2019-10-30 20:25:49 UTC  

?

2019-10-30 20:25:50 UTC  

For instance, where does the quote say that "races have to be homogenous"?

2019-10-30 20:25:56 UTC  

I am swelling

2019-10-30 20:25:59 UTC  

for this debate

2019-10-30 20:26:26 UTC  

@BabygottBach please read your own quote

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/639198452172980244/1f679XYj4EbAjcBPDoFneB35J4elW2E3Am4E3AiIIPCvkR9EcsyS3XNkMzjcF24E3Ai4EfgREXBH5B8RfHfTbgTcCLgRMEPAHZHN.png

2019-10-30 20:26:29 UTC  

well, I didn't read the shit

2019-10-30 20:26:33 UTC  

Unless JF is familiar with the source of the quote and the authors themselves and know them to be operating on false conceptions of the race realist argument.

2019-10-30 20:26:48 UTC  

they already are

2019-10-30 20:26:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/639198549690548236/38HxY7JscUAijSso.mp4

2019-10-30 20:26:52 UTC  

look at what I posted

2019-10-30 20:26:57 UTC  

that is not the race realist position

2019-10-30 20:27:00 UTC  

so its already a strawman