Message from @The Eternal Swede

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2019-10-31 12:59:50 UTC  

Neo Reactionary thought recognizes that Whig History started with Luther

2019-10-31 13:00:02 UTC  

Liberalism is the replacement for religion, for the people that would in the past be very deeply religious

2019-10-31 13:00:06 UTC  

Whig History was the start of "progress"

2019-10-31 13:00:12 UTC  

that line of neo reactionary thought is getting at something

2019-10-31 13:00:14 UTC  

It provides you with arbitrary rules that must be followed, or you are "bad"

2019-10-31 13:00:17 UTC  

Just like religion

2019-10-31 13:00:22 UTC  

but not the whole thing

2019-10-31 13:00:24 UTC  

not even close

2019-10-31 13:00:36 UTC  

Catholicism was Liberalism from Orthodoxy

2019-10-31 13:00:43 UTC  

It gives you ground to morally judge others and feel superior based on adherence to loosely defined, ever-shifting rules
Just like religion

2019-10-31 13:00:48 UTC  

but of course, catholics love this explanation

2019-10-31 13:01:17 UTC  

i don't give a shit what website you link

2019-10-31 13:01:28 UTC  

Since when did I say it was the whole thing?

2019-10-31 13:01:30 UTC  

@The Eternal Swede Not understanding evolutionary reasons behind religiousness is low IQ

2019-10-31 13:01:55 UTC  

you pretty much traced all this religious and ideological development without referencing the material world at all

2019-10-31 13:01:55 UTC  

>EUROPE

2019-10-31 13:01:57 UTC  

...

2019-10-31 13:02:01 UTC  

that's not very helpful

2019-10-31 13:02:03 UTC  

and it's wrong

2019-10-31 13:02:14 UTC  

@iippo I don't understand, did you take from what I said that I somehow disagree with that concept?

2019-10-31 13:02:50 UTC  

the reformation itself resulted from economic and political changes

2019-10-31 13:02:54 UTC  

@stem Listen. I'm at school and explaining the development of liberalism would take up time I don't have

2019-10-31 13:03:06 UTC  

Go back to class Nick

2019-10-31 13:03:09 UTC  

Your teacher will be pissed

2019-10-31 13:03:10 UTC  

@stem No. That fueled it but did not cause it

2019-10-31 13:03:30 UTC  

Some may say it was inevitable

2019-10-31 13:03:35 UTC  

With the Hussites

2019-10-31 13:03:39 UTC  

Just kidding I'm at work, my boss would be pissed too

2019-10-31 13:03:41 UTC  

And Wycliffe

2019-10-31 13:03:54 UTC  

You just called religious rules arbitrary, which they aren't if they aid in reproduction

2019-10-31 13:04:29 UTC  

But regardless of its inevitability, it still was the beginning of the ideology of rejection of authority

2019-10-31 13:04:33 UTC  

Which is progress incarnate

2019-10-31 13:04:35 UTC  

Oh, then I follow

2019-10-31 13:05:01 UTC  

Gtg

2019-10-31 13:05:07 UTC  

I mean they are not rationally derived, and without a rational derivation process they can easily be shifted to whatever the ruler-maker wants

2019-10-31 13:05:35 UTC  

But I can understand why a religious inclination has been an evolutionary advantage

2019-10-31 13:05:57 UTC  

It adds another layer of in-group preference, for example, which is a strong evolutionary advantage in itself

2019-10-31 13:07:44 UTC  

Rationality right now is about turning your dick inside out & blowing your brains out after years of suffering

2019-10-31 13:08:28 UTC  

No, that's liberalism, but the current incarnation of that is so far from rationality that it's not even funny

2019-10-31 13:08:39 UTC  

Feelings over facts in a nutshell