Message from @Svenner
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what caused god then?
thats the caricature
implying we could ever know the truth of the creation of the universe
that woudl be a really silly argument for god
hahahaha fools
argument isnt even about that
i am the truth and the way
the whole point of the argument is to explain the existence of change
believe in me and you shall have eternal life
the existence of change requires an unchanging changer. nothing to do with particles moving around, nothing to do with the universe having a beginning
change doesnt require an unchanging changer
in fact, change doesnt really occur
its not liek the past disappears
he's right, whether in a spiritual realm or through your descendents if you follow the foundations laid down in jesus's teachings your genes will live forever
its a multidimensional topological structure of the universe
time isnt like some slidebook flipping pages
i could argue the universe is in fact unchanging and time is an illusion caused by our perspective
well, firstly i think you're wrong about the physics there. i understand the implications of relativity. but you need to factor in qm. the b theory of time isnt correct
but even if that were true, no sane individual could accept that change is an illusion
we suspect time shoudl be quantized just like space
prove me wrong <:vargsmug:639999539192922123>
consider loop quantum gravity and spin networks
or consider the spacetime configuration of the universe as a high dimensional hilbert/fock space
time and space are emergent from the structure of the configuration space
"This conclusion means that the spacetime including all the events that have actually happened - and that will happen - cannot be interpreted as a coherent block that obeys unambiguous laws. The "free will" they derive means that the outcome of an experiment done "now" is not a function of things in the past. In this sense, the results of these experiments are "really" decided now. They were not decided in the past."
from first glance of those rules, none of them are strong
or proofs
but yea, even if you were right about the physics. i wouldnt concede that change doesnt exist
nothing is strong, except the light of Odin
thats something a crazy person would say
you forgot the next part
It is not hard to see that both opinions are textbook examples of unfalsifiable statements. How are you supposed to decide that the past doesn't (or didn't) exist? Clearly, this question depends on the definition of the word "exist" in a particular context. This word was not designed to settle similar ill-defined questions.
my benis rn
yikes
that moabite needs to drink some water
wtf
His leg is about to give birth.
That's an injury