Message from @Svenner
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inertia isnt a valid counter argument
4 is the worst type of cope
"there needs to be a most perfect being"
"that being is god"
you're doing what young earth christian fundies do with evolution. "oh if evolution is true, why are there still monkeys"
to that i would say, you dont have an objective definition of perfection
and nothing says a maximally perfect being is god... it could be some massive unvierse spanning AI network, it still wouldnt be god
the arguments are way more sophisticated then these caricature internet summaries present them as
hahaha science faggots hahahahahaha
*guffaw*
thats reasonable glamp
you can present them someday
why does one not make sense though? It's basically saying whatever force that caused the big bang, was god
no
implying the big bang exists
it literally doesnt not say that
what caused god then?
thats the caricature
implying we could ever know the truth of the creation of the universe
that woudl be a really silly argument for god
argument isnt even about that
i am the truth and the way
the whole point of the argument is to explain the existence of change
believe in me and you shall have eternal life
the existence of change requires an unchanging changer. nothing to do with particles moving around, nothing to do with the universe having a beginning
change doesnt require an unchanging changer
in fact, change doesnt really occur
its not liek the past disappears
he's right, whether in a spiritual realm or through your descendents if you follow the foundations laid down in jesus's teachings your genes will live forever
its a multidimensional topological structure of the universe
time isnt like some slidebook flipping pages
i could argue the universe is in fact unchanging and time is an illusion caused by our perspective
well, firstly i think you're wrong about the physics there. i understand the implications of relativity. but you need to factor in qm. the b theory of time isnt correct
but even if that were true, no sane individual could accept that change is an illusion
we suspect time shoudl be quantized just like space
physics doesnt exist, the shit i take in your yard doesnt fall to the ground because of gravity
prove me wrong <:vargsmug:639999539192922123>
consider loop quantum gravity and spin networks
or consider the spacetime configuration of the universe as a high dimensional hilbert/fock space
time and space are emergent from the structure of the configuration space