Message from @Wally

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2017-09-03 18:26:17 UTC  

No one literally worships the Sun.

2017-09-03 18:26:24 UTC  

We revere what it represents.

2017-09-03 18:26:39 UTC  

So we revere Baldur and Mithra.

2017-09-03 18:26:39 UTC  

it might be true

2017-09-03 18:26:51 UTC  

Apollo.

2017-09-03 18:27:14 UTC  

Sol Invictus and Christ enter into the God-man idea. Where the archetype meets flesh.

2017-09-03 18:27:44 UTC  

This is where worship is defined. Where religion and doctrine enter in.

2017-09-03 18:31:42 UTC  

Like I said I like both, I go to church and if there is an asatru event I go there too

2017-09-03 18:32:27 UTC  

and I don't really want to argue about it

2017-09-03 18:33:37 UTC  

Church is part of our culture and heritage

2017-09-03 18:34:43 UTC  

and Asatru is part of our ancestry

2017-09-03 18:45:23 UTC  

I'm not even saying it's wrong to be Asatru lol

2017-09-03 18:46:29 UTC  

I'm just saying it was never considered a religion by our ancestors. They didn't literally believe in Thor as a physical person. Or Loki. They were personified ideas and causes and forces and concepts.

2017-09-03 18:47:36 UTC  

And there was never a doctrine or theology. Just oral tradition and local customs. They didn't have a name even for their assembled "pantheon". Dr. Johnson's podcast on this is great.

2017-09-03 18:48:52 UTC  

I think that's a reasonable view, and ties into my love of Traditional Catholicism with our reverence for our ancestors (Saints)

2017-09-03 18:49:35 UTC  

and I'm not saying everything is cucked about christianity

2017-09-03 18:50:35 UTC  

...but we as white nationalist should be aware of some things about it....

2017-09-03 18:51:10 UTC  

for sure a lot is good in christianity...

2017-09-03 18:52:21 UTC  

and I go to church every week...it was a good service today

2017-09-03 18:53:28 UTC  

except for one part

2017-09-03 18:54:23 UTC  

but I'm not meaning to insult christianity for saying that

2017-09-03 18:57:55 UTC  

And I love the work of Dr. Johnson too

2017-09-03 18:58:22 UTC  

A lot of Christians just don't get it, and many who do are not at all gracious about it. It's a big problem I keep running into. Thankfully I have y'all to keep me sane

2017-09-03 18:58:44 UTC  

I just finished his book Russian Populist

2017-09-03 18:59:27 UTC  

I think if y'll want to know about Russia, you should read it

2017-09-03 19:00:06 UTC  

its just a short book...but it's good

2017-09-03 19:00:36 UTC  

and I always listen to his podcasts

2017-09-03 19:01:57 UTC  

As an Evolafag I find that Father Johnson's podcast a bit weak, yes there is a stark difference in Christian and pagan view of religion, sacred, dogma, theology, etc, but to say that its all just secular custom is wrong

2017-09-03 19:03:02 UTC  

yea I love Asatru

2017-09-03 19:03:07 UTC  

I'm just gonna go full Luther and start a new church for racists.

2017-09-03 19:03:16 UTC  

Never go full Luther

2017-09-03 19:03:24 UTC  

Except sometimes it's entertaining

2017-09-03 19:03:36 UTC  

So... CI?

2017-09-03 19:03:43 UTC  

And revere the old archetypes too so pagans can convert readily.

2017-09-03 19:03:48 UTC  

didn't wqe already have a religion?

2017-09-03 19:04:06 UTC  

Go full NS fusion faith

2017-09-03 19:04:17 UTC  

David Lane had a branch of christianity

2017-09-03 19:04:28 UTC  

Mithra to Christ to Hitler.

2017-09-03 19:04:54 UTC  

I'm skeptical of artificial attempts like that, but it's probably not totally worthless to think in those terms

2017-09-03 19:05:50 UTC  

The Perennialists make a lot of good points

2017-09-03 19:09:55 UTC  

You know EH has a good idea. It wasn't until years after Christ died, about 70-90, that Christianity took off big league.