Message from @Fash Dragon

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2017-12-21 03:35:39 UTC  

I hope that's a good enough answer

2017-12-21 03:35:40 UTC  

Or

2017-12-21 03:35:46 UTC  

Yeah kinda

2017-12-21 03:36:36 UTC  

Personally I like the idea of industries which are nationalized with free market alternatives

2017-12-21 03:36:51 UTC  

I think the postal service in the US is a good example

2017-12-21 03:37:06 UTC  

Or the water systems

2017-12-21 03:37:17 UTC  

Exactly

2017-12-21 03:37:25 UTC  

Ahh ok

2017-12-21 03:37:34 UTC  

I think any essential service should have free market alternatives personally

2017-12-21 03:37:34 UTC  

Free Enterprise and Capitalism are not synonyms

2017-12-21 03:37:52 UTC  

What's the difference?

2017-12-21 03:38:14 UTC  

Free enterprise is kinda the natural mode of operation for people

2017-12-21 03:38:16 UTC  

No bulli I'm new

2017-12-21 03:38:33 UTC  

How so?

2017-12-21 03:38:59 UTC  

It's based on incentive.

2017-12-21 03:39:12 UTC  

People want to eat. People want homes

2017-12-21 03:39:22 UTC  

People acquire resources to meet these needs

2017-12-21 03:39:49 UTC  

And they do so of their own accord. That's free enterprise to my understanding

2017-12-21 03:40:14 UTC  

So is there any possibility for free enterprise and the National good to come into conflict?

2017-12-21 03:40:15 UTC  

Capitalism takes it up a few extra levels. It allows for a lot more exploitation

2017-12-21 03:40:41 UTC  

Does anyone else care to jump in? I'm not the best at economics

2017-12-21 03:40:57 UTC  

I slept through my high school econ class

2017-12-21 03:41:09 UTC  

I vaguely remember something about guns and butter

2017-12-21 03:42:39 UTC  

Ideally (and I know a lot of libertarians unironically believe this) the system that is best is when everyone is allowed to freely do what they want, and the market regulates itself and there is no conflict with nation interest

2017-12-21 03:42:47 UTC  

This, of course, is fucking retarded

2017-12-21 03:43:11 UTC  

Right it puts profit over people

2017-12-21 03:43:51 UTC  

And when you put profit over people, the end result is inevitably entire factories geared towards making dildos

2017-12-21 03:44:22 UTC  

The Bad Dragon Jew strikes again

2017-12-21 03:44:56 UTC  

Another major fault in totally free capitalism is that monopolies will inevitably form

2017-12-21 03:45:10 UTC  

Insider trading

2017-12-21 03:45:34 UTC  

Right. Personally I lean more libertarian

2017-12-21 03:45:43 UTC  

Importation at the expense of the nation

2017-12-21 03:45:59 UTC  

But I realize that people can't be trusted to do everything right

2017-12-21 03:46:32 UTC  

How is it then we can dictate economic morality?

2017-12-21 03:47:05 UTC  

Usery, land speculation, etc

2017-12-21 03:47:29 UTC  

I'm pretty sure religion solved that problem back in the day

2017-12-21 03:47:40 UTC  

Not 100% sure though

2017-12-21 03:47:44 UTC  

We use government to ban usury

2017-12-21 03:47:47 UTC  

Economic regulations

2017-12-21 03:47:47 UTC  

Muh church and state

2017-12-21 03:48:28 UTC  

Is this movement reactionary?