There's three definitions. Descendants of the tribe of Judah, citizens of the Roman province of Judea, and descendants of mixed-race Edomites that developed the Talmud. Jesus falls into the first and second categories, but not the third (which accounts for 100% of modern Jews)

*maybe not 100% actually but a lot of them

http://ap.lanexdev.com/user_images/Discovery/image/magazine/2014/04/Palestine-Map-Judea.png

My definition is decendants of the tribe of Judah.

He only falls into the first definition

ooh, good point. Galilee is outside

In the end I don't really care, I believe true Christianity is opposed to Talmudic Jewery.

Pilate was being ironic when he said "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews"

because Nazareth isn't in Judea

And Talmudic Jewery is opposed to Natural Law.

The CQ is a big one. It feels like mental gymnastics at times

I'm distrustful of *all* Semites, including Arabs

the fact that they fight with each other doesn't mean anything to me. Swedes and Saxons fought, too, for centuries

@Odalman accept for the fact that most do not subscribe to true Christianity most Christians are zionist and it's sick

I'm well aware, I used to be a Christian.

My grand parents are Zionists.

@Odalman me too brother.. I was a minister..

The vast majority of people who call themselves Christian are not

I was a minister as well actually. Being trained to be a pastor at one time.

damn

@Odalman I evangelized and pastored honestly personal issues interfered but now I see the big picture

heck, most American protestant groups are basically business scams at this point. People majorly overestimate American religiosity and it needs to stop.

I watched my mom die serving a church that taught if she gave them money god would heal her cancer.

Damn, that's a blackpill

The "church" is heavily Zionist and even meets with the Knesset on occasion. A multi-million dollar ministry. The "pastor" lives in a huge house and drives the finest cars.

It's disgusting.

@Odalman I watched my cousin refuse chemo for colonl cancer because God was going to heal him and he died at 31 with a wife and 2 kids

That's sad bro.

I think that Christianity is like communism in the sense that it's *not Judaism*, but it can be used to great effect by Jews. Depending on who you ask, it was also created by them.

I'll be back in a bit

Yeah real Christianity has some socialistic themes.

Communal living kinda

At least that's how the Christians in the book of acts lived.

Actual Christianity is NS. Modern Christianity has been infiltrated by jews for a long time

Am not anti Christian I subscribe to most values.. but I also advocate for balance

Babylon is a strong argument against multi-culturalism.

There are other scriptures that support that line of reasoning.

Psalm 82 (83)
```
O God, who can be likened to You?
Be not silent nor appeased, O God,
For behold, Your enemies made a noise,
And those who hate You raised up their heads.
They devised a wicked judgement against Your people.
And they plotted against Your saints.
They said, "Come, and let us destroy
them from among the people.
And let the name Israel be remembered no more."
For they plotted together in unity;
They established a covenant against You:
The tents of the Edomites and the Ishmaelites,
Moab and the Hagarenes,
Gebal and Ammon and Amalek,
And foreigners with the inhabitants of Tyre;
And even Assyria joined with them;
They came to the aid of the sons of Lot.```

Psalm 83:3 says God's elect are "hidden" or protected ones, and that they are under attack from a coalition of evil groups led by Edom. Who was Edom?

Esau, the brother of the patriarch Jacob, became the ancestor of the people called Edom, or Idumea. The Antiquities of the Jews by Flavius Josephus, XIII ix 1; XV vii 9 instructs us: John Hyrcanus forcibly assimilated the Edomites as a national group and they became "Jews" in about 120BC. The Jewish historian Josephus, who lived just after the time of Christ, wrote, "They [Edom] were hereafter no other than Jews'. The Jewish scholar Cecil Roth in his Concise Jewish Encyclopedia (1980) says on page 154, "John Hyrcanus forcibly converted [Edom] to Judaism. From then on they were part of the Jewish people. In the Talmud the name of Edom was applied to Christian Rome, and was then used for Christianity in general".

Terrible judgements against Edom are made in most of the prophecies of the Old Testament. For instance, Isaiah 34, 63, Jeremiah 49, and the entire book of Obadiah.

Isaiah 63:1-6, "Who is this coming from Edom . . . in garments stained with crimson? It is I [the Lord] who speak in righteousness and am mighty to save."

"Why are your garments red, as if you had trodden the winepress?"

"I have trodden the winepress alone: and of the people there was none to help Me. In My anger I trod them down, trampled them in My wrath. Their blood splattered My garments, and all My clothes are stained. For the day of vengeance is in My heart, and the year of My redeemed has come. . . I will tread down the people in My anger, and bring their blood upon the ground".

These verses refer to Revelations chapter 19:11-21, when the Word of God destroys His enemies: "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse: and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True. . . His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns, and He had a Name written that no man knew but Himself. And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood, and His Name is called The Word of God. . . and He trod the winepress of God’s fierce anger".

Interesting