Message from @Norik

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2020-01-31 19:19:42 UTC  

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2020-01-31 19:23:01 UTC  

Ok

2020-01-31 21:15:20 UTC  

Very briefly social conservatism is about not being a massive faggot

2020-01-31 21:28:27 UTC  

^redpilled

2020-01-31 21:31:15 UTC  

TO be more serious in a sense its changing the way you look at the world

2020-01-31 21:36:22 UTC  

I guess I would define social conservatism personally as looking at history and seeing what worked and didn't work in various historical societies and using this to uncover natural law and to try and base policies around it

2020-01-31 21:36:38 UTC  

I see it as an organic and empirical worldview

2020-01-31 21:36:54 UTC  

like the vast majority of Christian idea's are also practical

2020-01-31 21:37:24 UTC  

Machiavelli.mp4

2020-01-31 21:37:28 UTC  

Literally every sucessful society in history has had a nuclear family

2020-01-31 21:37:40 UTC  

the only exceptions are random throwbacks

2020-01-31 21:38:05 UTC  

That’s just empiricism though. That’s what the American founders were doing but I wouldn’t label them as conservative

2020-01-31 21:38:10 UTC  

Extended family varied in importance but the idea of a man and women raising children was always the norm

2020-01-31 21:38:23 UTC  

Since they were radically changing things and overthrowing established institutions

2020-01-31 21:38:24 UTC  

I don't like the term conservative

2020-01-31 21:38:28 UTC  

really

2020-01-31 21:38:41 UTC  

but its the closest term to what I belive

2020-01-31 21:38:55 UTC  

Yeah no I totally agree with you in your worldview

2020-01-31 21:39:00 UTC  

To my knowledge I don't think anyone seriously proposed gay marriage prior to the 1960's

2020-01-31 21:39:16 UTC  

Dennis Prager called it the single most radical idea in human history

2020-01-31 21:39:21 UTC  

But I feel like conservatism has an inherent respect for established institutions

2020-01-31 21:39:24 UTC  

By definition

2020-01-31 21:39:41 UTC  

it was the only political/moral idea that he could find no historical precedence for

2020-01-31 21:40:13 UTC  

But like if its such a great thing why did literally no one think of it before the 1960s

2020-01-31 21:40:23 UTC  

respect for the environment is in the bible

2020-01-31 21:40:26 UTC  

inb4 some dishonest loser points to that one couple in medieval Spain or some misinterpreted Indian tradition

2020-01-31 21:40:31 UTC  

not abusing animals is n the bible

2020-01-31 21:40:44 UTC  

and in other traditions

2020-01-31 21:41:08 UTC  

we are in a better material position to do some of these but like St. Francis tried to get the Emperor to enact animal welfare laws

2020-01-31 21:41:17 UTC  

Slavery being wrong is not a new idea either

2020-01-31 21:41:24 UTC  

Zoroastrianism condemns slavery

2020-01-31 21:43:06 UTC  

Transsexualism is probably more radical in terms of its social impact tbh

2020-01-31 21:43:59 UTC  

I guess you could find plenty of historical precedent for people acting like the other sex

2020-01-31 21:44:42 UTC  

But the idea of castrating yourself of your own volition to become a woman is fucking insane and unthinkable until like five minutes ago

2020-01-31 21:45:20 UTC  

I’d say that’s far more revolutionary (and dangerous overall) than faggots doing their thing

2020-01-31 21:46:50 UTC  

I think what’s different about homosexuality today is the fact that it’s being treated as equal to heterosexuality

2020-01-31 21:48:59 UTC  

Even societies where men went off and lived on their own (if those ever existed, I’m sure some autist could point out a few isolated cases throughout history) or where gay sex was somewhat common such as Ancient Greece, it was still seen as marginal and not a replacement for having a wife and making a family

2020-01-31 21:51:04 UTC  

Idk where I’m going with this

2020-01-31 21:51:05 UTC  

Oh

2020-01-31 21:51:11 UTC  

Social conservatism

2020-01-31 21:51:35 UTC  

It’s pathetic how being a normal person is now a political opinion