They don't need to annex it

Its not their style

True, but seeing as how things have reached an uncomfortable stalemate, and donsekt as well as luhanks are not self-sufficent at all, I would have no doubt that they would be annexed soon.

setting up de facto governments that answer to them is better

@Hadrian Then why did russia annex crimean?

They had a better claim, Crimea was Russian until 57

Donbass has been part of the Soviet creation dubbed "Ukraine" since 1918

Holy fuck lmao

Its also strategically important

I didn’t realize maintaining territorial integrity is considered imperialism

there's a thicc natural gas pipeline that flows through it, and Sevastopol gives them control to the Black Sea

@FashyHillbilly To be fair ukraine did exist as a tiny kingdom in the middle ages....... before the khans came around and fucked them.

But I agree with you in that there is no true "ukraine".

The Ukraine is rightfully Russian Clay

>what even is the Cossacks

Ukraine having control over that pipeline is a choke point. Ukraine being in control of it makes sanctions against Russia crippling

Cossacks and tatars are spooks

@Hadrian But that is no longer the case, as well as the sanctions that are now being lifted.

they can be reapplied at any time

I wonder what would happen if the US forced turkey's hand to start blockading russian ships from going in and out of the black sea.....

Crimea has a lot of strategic importance to Russia

Putin was a smart jew, in that he recognized that obama is a pussy, and took a gambit at invading and annexing crimean, with the risk of causing a world war.\

Ukraine is facing Western Imperialism and Russian Imperialism simultaneously

I look at the uprising in Crimea as organic though, Putin just utilized it.

They are Russians, it was a national struggle

@FashyHillbilly It is doubtable.

Crimeans aren’t Russians lmao

They’re Tartars

There’s ethnic Russians there for sure

I don't think it was 100% engineered by Russia, but I do believe they did some sneaky shit to instigate it

But still

and then gave material support

They were historically part of the Russian state

They weren't forced into Ukraine until 57

By Khruschev

@Hadrian Well shit, that's what they have been doing in the middle east, as well as the US, in arming rebels and the government to fight each other, in order to give a clausius beli for the white man to become waker as well.

But you will notice that no side will ever fund a side they deem "too nazi" for them.

well yes, Russia is an inherently multiracial multicultural empire. They oppress their own ethnic naitonalists pretty hard

Really makes you wonder why.....

Let's be clear: Russia is not our friend

Restore Novgorod