Message from @MatthewHeimbach
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I havent read all of it yet, but its really up for interpretation and context in some places.
Def not to be swallowed whole
Siege was written in the dark days of the movement, where there wasnt the internet, and things seemed rather bleak. But technology and a changing environment has provided us different opportunities
Even Mason in his interview a few months ago came out against Direct Action as a method of change
And he's gone from being a Satanist to being some sort of Christian these days
The book says that there are two options: total war or total dropout. It also says that if you're feeling particularly suicidal, feel free to pick total war, but total dropout is the only real option in today's society
The Satanist thing threw me for a loop
We can build infrastructure and community without totally dropping out. Waco happened because the Branch Davidians had little to no contact with their neighbors and werent a part of the community. An Amish model of half in, half out; where we haveo ur own self sufficient communities that then can trade and provide services to the local community, is a far better path than running off to the woods waiting for us to get Ruby Ridge'd
But for the record, Charles Manson's vision of hiding in a mountain so a race war happens, Whites lose, and then a small group can lord over the black and brown population is not a good path forward at all. Haiti sure as heck isnt begging for colonialism again, that is just a silly plan
brb
@Vice Commander Hunt
I've read the whole thing, before you even thought about white nationalism...
Mason writes like a teenager, and his own actions and that of NSLF alone show that his strategies were worthless.
Total war and total dropout are defeatist tactics. Total war (real total war, not the BS tactics that some of ANP guys tried) was waged only a decade before Siege, and it failed. Total Dropout was used by the movement for decades after Siege and it too failed.
Reading Siege, and taking it for anything more than a collection of historical articles (poorly written, might I add), then why are they involved in this Cause?
TWP and most of the Movement are seeking to become ingrained in society, not aloof to it.
How do you feel about Pierce @John Mosby ?
I strongly dislike Pierce.
He was a classist and a hardcore anti-Christian.
I grew up on: Butler, Swift, and Beam.
Although Pierce was rather sympathetic to Orthodoxy, just for the record
Interesting. I wasn't aware he even knew what Orthodoxy was.
Yeah he spoke several times about how that was the only branch of Christianity he respected and thought was healthy
I know some old calenderist priest he had written letters with during the 80s
It is
@MatthewHeimbach Technically Mason didnt come out against direct action but against suicidal pointless action, which was in the book too.
Well true, but look, it isnt a viable model of change, it just isn't. ZOG is going to fall under its own weight, we need to be ready with the men and infrastructure to assert our political will in the vacuum created by ZOG being unable to provide basic safety, food, and stability for our communities
Same as Hezbollah running south lebanon, or the Irish republicans running entire sections of Northern Ireland during the Troubles
Exqctly
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ok actually brb this time. lol
Escalation is happening. We need to prepare for that.
Golden Dawn functioning as a second government is another example
Hungry Greeks turn to Golden Dawn to be fed when the government fails
Hail the Golden Dawn. Good example.
@VasilistheGreek What's your opinion on Golden Dawn?
Greece needs them now more than ever. Funny how that works.
Golden Dawn has been around for longer than most organizations in the movement
They were the first 'far-right' party in Europe I remember getting a lot of attention.
Fun fact,.did you know Fascists got 9% of the vote in the Rome elections this year.
Back in 2010-ish
It is statistically on the rise @Justin Burger (Major-GA)
And it’s beautiful
The local fascist party feeds homeless and renovates abandoned buildings for use by underclass.
Not just in Rome but world wide
Il Duce's Granddaughter is in the government
Yep
And she has not disavowed her grandfather