Message from @Tervy

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2017-05-23 08:32:15 UTC  

Testing what?

2017-05-23 08:32:28 UTC  

medical shit or just everything?

2017-05-23 12:32:56 UTC  

animal testing is a good thing

2017-05-23 13:58:03 UTC  

t. never had a pet

If you lack basic compassion to say that, might as well offer your moms ass for chemicals testing.

2017-05-23 14:04:11 UTC  

animal testing is a good thing as long as its done after initial laboratory evaluation and testing

2017-05-23 14:04:59 UTC  

you do know that test animals are breed for that and only for that. They have no survival instincts nor such to kick in if released to wild only way to end it would be kill the animals

2017-05-23 14:05:32 UTC  

>breed for that

Here we go again.

2017-05-23 14:06:38 UTC  

example the generic "white lab rat" has somewhat thicker skin and are breed to be healthy

2017-05-23 14:06:56 UTC  

and i bet they get 100x better and more suitable diet and living conditions when they are not being tested

2017-05-23 14:07:06 UTC  

than your average "pet"

2017-05-23 14:07:51 UTC  

same goes with human trials

2017-05-23 14:08:09 UTC  

healthy very targeted audience with proper health checks done first

2017-05-23 14:10:16 UTC  

but i agree

2017-05-23 14:10:26 UTC  

that its wrong if its done cause of some makeup/shampoo reasons

2017-05-23 14:10:58 UTC  

for medical testing i understand and agree with it

2017-05-23 14:11:36 UTC  

I feel like we're talking about different things.

I don't really care how they bred or shit like that. They're still living beings that go through suffering and abuse because of that shit.

And it's not like we're in fucking 19th century anymore. I believe there are plenty of ways to avoid that. Forcing animal testing by a fucking law -- this is utter bullshit.

2017-05-23 14:12:25 UTC  

we dont have proper ways of testing how living tissue reacts to X and Y

2017-05-23 14:12:32 UTC  

other than using said living tissue

2017-05-23 14:12:40 UTC  

If there are cruelty free companies out there I don't really get what prevents others to adopt the same testing methods.

2017-05-23 14:12:49 UTC  

in this case whole organism is needed to spot possible side-effects

2017-05-23 14:13:41 UTC  

you know that those labels "not animal tested"

2017-05-23 14:14:00 UTC  

is just outsourced to companies who provide separe chemicals and minerals who do testing

2017-05-23 14:14:07 UTC  

but the product itself is not tested on animals

2017-05-23 14:14:39 UTC  

just cause no need when indegrients (what are calculated not to be reactive with each other) are tested by companies who sent them to that company

2017-05-23 14:14:59 UTC  

from FDA "Some companies may apply such claims solely to their finished cosmetic products. However, these companies may rely on raw material suppliers or contract laboratories to perform any animal testing necessary to substantiate product or ingredient safety. Other cosmetic companies may rely on combinations of scientific literature, non-animal testing, raw material safety testing, or controlled human-use testing to substantiate their product safety."

2017-05-23 14:15:37 UTC  

aka : either others test the materials, or search data if someone has already tested it in the past

2017-05-23 14:15:55 UTC  

soon we have enough data about past to all items to be "cruelty free"

2017-05-23 14:16:29 UTC  

This is fucking hell. Just release some deadly incurable turbo cancer on us, for fucks sake. Let this planet rest for once.

2017-05-23 14:18:27 UTC  

hell even PETA agrees with me in this one (and i hate their asses time to time more than i hate greenpeace)

2017-05-23 14:21:29 UTC  

hell europe even has banned "the sale of cosmetics with ingredients tested on animals." what is impossible as most of our normal indegrients have been tested on animals at some point in time

2017-05-23 14:23:21 UTC  

iirc PETAS stance on medical trials on animals is " its to be avoided if possible in any decent and safe means but if no such test exists then we dont have any choice"

2017-05-23 14:23:26 UTC  

or something along those lines

2017-05-23 14:28:54 UTC  

whoa lads

2017-05-23 14:29:03 UTC  

#shit-about-chian

2017-05-23 14:29:06 UTC  

fuck

2017-05-23 14:29:13 UTC  

<#248100475054850050>

2017-05-23 14:29:29 UTC  

<:dinking:316253562755743745>

2017-05-23 14:30:21 UTC  

This did start as shit about china.

2017-05-23 14:30:48 UTC  

And it got off the rails real quick

2017-05-23 14:31:03 UTC  

would be better suited for <#189467888657235970>

2017-05-23 14:31:36 UTC  

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