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2018-07-02 21:36:59 UTC  

the latter seems more easy going in general

2018-07-02 21:38:40 UTC  

Not counting the service industry, HK people generally seem polite

2018-07-02 21:38:55 UTC  

way better than mainland chinks

2018-07-02 21:39:20 UTC  

a lot can actually into English too, although it's not guaranteed

2018-07-02 21:41:10 UTC  

I am around a lot of HK tourists recently and they behave reasonably

2018-07-02 22:42:57 UTC  

in my mind, taiwan is above HK but only by a little

2018-07-03 01:06:19 UTC  

Thoughts on China's belt and road project?

2018-07-03 01:08:32 UTC  

Its based

2018-07-03 01:12:11 UTC  

Should've just pulled through Russia and ignored the middle east tbh.

2018-07-03 01:12:20 UTC  

imo

2018-07-03 01:18:58 UTC  

Yeah but what about that debt trap diplomacy?

2018-07-03 01:20:43 UTC  

US Japan and WB have been doing it for years

2018-07-03 01:21:09 UTC  

China finally learned from the IMF I guess. But that doesn't make it any less unsettling.

2018-07-03 01:21:36 UTC  

It's rather a game of bomb trap diplomacy

2018-07-03 01:21:54 UTC  

But China presents as some warsaw-pact-tier shit.

2018-07-03 01:22:24 UTC  

For the goverments

2018-07-03 01:22:50 UTC  

Doesn't mean so trainwrecks aren't going to do shit anyway

2018-07-03 01:23:38 UTC  

I mean if it works, good for everyone involved, but so far i only see this with a lot of bad press and somaly pirate tier shit coming up.

2018-07-03 01:26:20 UTC  

I dunno. I guess I just kinda assume the worst bcuz China. But even if it's benevolent, I expect at least a free press to take a hit in the countries involved because why piss off the country that's stimulating your economy? It's in their interest right now to do everything to avoid pissing off Chinese Winnie the Poo and I'm worried what kind of effects that will have.

2018-07-03 01:27:43 UTC  

A lot of BRI contracts are as much about relieving china's massive industrial overcapacity and steel surplus as they are about leashing smaller economues around them

2018-07-03 01:27:48 UTC  

I hope at least some of the countries involved will try to develop some economic independence instead of sitting on their laurels.

2018-07-03 01:28:14 UTC  

Oh, no. I don't think that China will be the bad boy in any of that. They play American world police on a smaller scale with no contestans...

2018-07-03 01:28:25 UTC  

On top of that the AIIB which provudes at least 1/3 of the funding involved has multilateral contributors from across the globe

2018-07-03 01:29:38 UTC  

Nobody in Asia wants to be China's bitch and they dont have any misconceptions about the real intentions behind Xi's "shared destiny" message

2018-07-03 01:32:02 UTC  

China is going to have a hell of a time getting over the PR issues (especially in the south china sea) if they want this movement to have any of the geopolitical heft they want

2018-07-03 01:33:53 UTC  

Maybe. Who knows, maybe some of the beneficiaries are playing 3d chess.

2018-07-03 01:35:06 UTC  

Real question imo; does china's shared destiny catch on quick enough before china themselves get fucked over by automation?

2018-07-03 01:40:42 UTC  

twould be hilarious especially if said automation was precipitated by their insane IT boom

2018-07-03 01:43:02 UTC  

Rather bought in, but i guess it results the same.

2018-07-03 01:56:52 UTC  

I'm sure China would have an economic boon, only the workers will be fucked. Which is to say most everyone. I guess political stability could still be a challenge though.

2018-07-03 02:33:18 UTC  

I feel like hong kong was the first place in asia where expats started to settle down in

2018-07-03 02:33:50 UTC  

less people are doing this these days I think

2018-07-03 05:02:03 UTC  

@transience are hostels in bangkok okay?

2018-07-03 05:02:08 UTC  

I kinda wanna try it

2018-07-03 05:12:04 UTC  

@plasticsword Depends if you can deal with other people being around

2018-07-03 05:12:11 UTC  

mine is okay

2018-07-03 05:12:23 UTC  

no obvious sleazy western men

2018-07-03 05:24:00 UTC  

is it usually just a curtain?

2018-07-03 05:24:23 UTC  

also are there lockers?

2018-07-03 06:36:10 UTC  

yeah, I share a room with four chinks and one white guy but there are curtains you can pull down

2018-07-03 06:36:17 UTC  

and also a locker