Message from @Stefan Payne
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Suit 2nd Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrA67l-0plloiP1Yyiu8-7A(edited)
Mozart wrote this shit at the age of 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=241C58kqZXM
following up on something Matt + Blonde talked about two weeks ago regarding men afraid to approach women http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article186983518.html
skimmed the article but this stuck out:
>Debra Gravert, chief administrative officer of the Assembly Rules Committee, said the committee tracks only investigations she and human resources officials decide to conduct. Not all complaints about behavior – such as someone asking someone else for a date – violate sexual harassment policy, she said. In the last six years, it has conducted eight investigations, she said.
but then, followed by
>Lobbyist Samantha Corbin encouraged subcommittee members to rethink what might be considered sexual harassment under the current policy.
>“A suggestion was made earlier that it is not sexual harassment if someone asks someone out on a date,” she said. “I beg to differ, because if the chair of appropriations was to ask me out on a date, I would certainly feel pressured. If a fellow was asked out by their boss, they certainly would feel pressured.”
and some stats from a YouGov poll https://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/11/daily-chart-14?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/
granted, this is YouGov and I have no idea how representative the samples are
but nearly a quarter of millennial + Gen-Z men view "asking to go for a drink" as a form of sexual harassment
I do wonder though if their responses reflect their personal views on sexual harassment or it's based on their observation of what would earn them a harassment charge
Thanks. I wish the graph was more specific about age, maybe coordinated with year, I could from experience and observation what ‘seemed’ about right. Putting a hand on lower back was once a sign of politeness, support, care, respect, something in that range, anyway it was a good thing, maybe on stairs, think about it, women in heels... akin to opening doors for women.
Even asking for a sexual favor, it would depend on context. I had close male workmates, geez, even I have sexually harassed them. I think communication is key. Paying close attention to reactions and asking if you’ve offended someone, seriously asking, and paying attention to the answer... they may say no but facial expressions might obviously say yes. Then, respect that. I think most people can recognize a real creep. Maybe lack of face to face communication may have reduced our ability to read social cues and the intentions of others. I get creeped out by some of the listed behaviors but it depended on the situation, location, groups you are legitimately safe with, etc. So, I still generally recommend men pay attention to the way the women act, if someone is bad at that, ask a female friend for an opinion, and I recommend that women grow up and get a damn grip. I generally ALWAYS suggest that men have a true female friend, because men are very often victims of manipulative bitches. I’m not kidding. It’s my area of expertise 😂
Hardly a controversial opinion here, but I think this culture of least charitable interpretation is ultimately unsustainable. There really needs to be a process put in place to curb it
Yep.
Opinions are going to vary by age and what was considered common decency, culture, location, etc. I’ve studied human behavior over the years. Nothing shocks me, offends me much, I really have seen a lot, but the path we are on, the human race can’t survive on this path, there will ultimately be a reset. I don’t think it’s going to be pretty.
I think we're heading that way in an economic and political sense as well
I don't think humans will die out though. We're fairly resilient
Nah. No, dying out but I think there will be changes. Not a race thing, but I do think the ‘ ‘bloodsport’ will drive people who feel comfortable together into niches again... Reset.
So, survey for the younger population. You meet a girl, you compliment them accidentally, as in it slips out. She takes it well, very well according to report. Numbers are exchanged. What’s proper wait time to call? To ask on a date. Are in a class where they occasionally cross paths. I’m assuming not making the situation potentially awkward would be good. I don’t see how you people avoid all this harassment BS. How the hell are you ever supposed to have a relationship? Everyone move to a small town that’s a little behind the times, people generally don’t concern themselves with these matters, more traditional, that’ll help 😅