Message from @Meiglos
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lies i am a patreon
Bol and Branch made from ORGANIC cotton.... like there is any other kind of cotton?
Cotton picked from machines and not a groups of chocolate Americans
Finally a Patron
grats!
I know Im waiting to be knighted orange
It’s sad that it’s taken me this long to do it.
there are still many of us who haven't, don't be sad
Ive been a patron for about two months now but I just sent the message to Matt tonight to be marked orange.. I hadn't tried to figure out the call in discord shit
I became a patron after checking and seeing that matt has almost double the patron as blonde and pissed blonde is a major part of why i love the show
The wife and I have a kid on the way so she wants to talk pregnancy with blonde and I want to talk shit with Matt
grats on the incoming kid!
@Pnakotus thanks!
Gnite
@AmongstEnemies#1282 there are separate rooms in the server like <#358326373594693642> <#266396659062145025> and the like. Feel free to post whatever you want in those rooms (within reason).
anyone else watch Owen Benjamin on youtube?
I try to, but with two jobs, I can't add two more hours into each day
i used to, kinda
He just posted a new video responding to some of the things Sam Harris said on Dave Rubin, and I felt like talking about it
i usually watch his shows that he posts
Well I definitely endorse the work he does and all that but his last couple of videos really rubbed me the wrong way
Rubin or Benjamin?
in what way?
Benjamin
Well it is kind of complicated but basically he talks about religion in this video and its "necessity" but I really don't like his arguments
what kind of religion does he talk about?
isn't he jewish?
is he?? I figured he's Christian
He just talks about it in general, responding to Sam Harris basically saying that religion isn't a necessary causal factor for morality
mhh
just ignore religious part, then
there is not much you can do
well I'm interested in engaging in the conversation about it but I felt really weird about the way he structured his arguments
I haven't watched the video, but I do think that religion plays/played a big part in the formation of morality
so you have nothing against religion, you are just troubled by the quality of his arguments?
I have nothing against religion, but I also don't think it's fair to say that atheism is immoral because you need religion in order to have morality
There is truth to that
but there have also been 2000 years of Abrahamic religion shaping thought in the West
Not saying that religion is 100%, but it certainly is a good chunk
Ok but even accepting that fact, I can easily come up for a logical way for an objective morality to come about without the involvement of religion